(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[NZ]SZ[19]KM[8.00]TM[5400]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
GN[NAIM (Ing Cup) round 1-2008 US Go Congress-Feng Yun [9p\] vs Zhonxia Zhao [6d\]]PW[Feng Yun]PB[Zhongxia Zhao]WR[9p]BR[6d]DT[2008-08-04]EV[North American Ing Masters]RO[1]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Brian Leahy]C[mike2096 [5k\]: hello?
DeepTuna [2k\]: hello out there
aron666 [8k\]: can we see that oon eurogotv ?
USGO2 [-\]: We are waiting for the players to choose color, by nigiri.
colombia [6k?\]: Ni Hao :)
mike2096 [5k\]: will there be audio?
USGO2 [-\]: No audio
mike2096 [5k\]: k
teamochi [9k\]: is this live?
DeepTuna [2k\]: yup
Viperlason [-\]: the one year im not at go congress -_-
teamochi [9k\]: lol
teamochi [9k\]: I fell your pain
Rakeliem [1k\]: is this a regular game?
odnihs [5k\]: wait, is it one round a day?
DeepTuna [2k\]: This is round 1 of the North American Ing Masters tournament at the US Go Congress
Viperlason [-\]: i see, no one has moved yet :<
USGO2 [-\]: Nigiri has been done... Feng Yun is white
USGO2 [-\]: The clock has not yet been started.
Rakeliem [1k\]: go feng yun 
USGO2 [-\]: There are 5 rounds.  none on Wednesday
USGO2 [-\]: Thursday is in the afternoon.
jsc [14k\]: no dang i gotta go in 23 minutes
]RE[W+23.00]
;B[cp]
;W[pp]
;B[dc]C[DeepTuna [2k\]: here we go
fly [1k\]: "b loses on the second move"...
DeepTuna [2k\]: ?
]
;W[eq]C[fly [1k\]: Because of e3
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;B[qd]
;W[de]
;B[hp]C[teamochi [9k\]: shuusaku?
]
;W[en]C[jsc [14k\]: ....
jsc [14k\]: huh?
teamochi [9k\]: fuseki I mean
]
;B[cm]
;W[jp]
;B[hn]
;W[dl]C[Richdad [5d\]: this joseki has so many variations
]
;B[dm]C[firewolf07 [5k\]: wow
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;W[em]
;B[el]C[firewolf07 [5k\]: long game
jsc [14k\]: ... stop rubbing it in i gotta go soon TT.TT
teamochi [9k\]: who else is watchign all of the games simultaniously?
jsc [14k\]: not me
Sigilus [19k\]: I was but not any more... I won't get anything out of it
Richdad [5d\]: there are basically 3 variations
DeepTuna [2k\]: If only W had ladder here
jsc [14k\]: its useless
ShihChing [8k\]: I'm watching MingJiu and this game.
Richdad [5d\]: one, black takes corner and side, and w makes thickness to the left side
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;W[co]C[Richdad [5d\]: two, wtakes corner, and lack captures d8 making thickness to the left side
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;B[bo]
;W[do]C[Richdad [5d\]: three neither takes corner, black captures d8, but w gets stronger and attacks H6
Richdad [5d\]: this last one is being picked right now
SenNoRenju [3k\]: Whats the website to watch these go games live?
]
;B[bq]C[Tower [3d\]: eurogotv.com or something ?
Tower [3d\]: not sure if they have an american affiliate
Firzen [2d\]: EUROgotv.com
teamochi [9k\]: but it's the US go congress :P
Blockdude [3k\]: wait
Tower [3d\]: right, but they planned on expanding to america
Blockdude [3k\]: omg
Blockdude [3k\]: feng yun is playing ricky?
Tower [3d\]: not sure if they ever got an american affiliate though
uglyboxer [2k\]: There are no live video broadcasts at this years Congress.
Richdad [5d\]: i expect
bourbaki [-\]: does anyboyd know if jin chen is playing in the ing this year?
Richdad [5d\]: g7 d9 f8 e9 k6 
PlayerX [-\]: B3 not in Kogo
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;W[go]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: kogo isn't perfect
Richdad [5d\]: oh..interesting timing
Richdad [5d\]: if black plays H5, w an then D9 or c8
Richdad [5d\]: and if b f8, w gets out with G7
sixsix [-\]: or D10
]
;B[ho]
;W[dk]C[blubb [1d\]: kogo's is influenced by pros but actually maintained by amateurs
fairgo1 [10k\]: feng yun is in the us go congress!
Richdad [5d\]: w sucessfully reverted this to a joseki punishment
Richdad [5d\]: w is good
]
;B[ek]
;W[dj]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: she is
DeepTuna [2k\]: great
Gay [4d\]: Richdad are you serious?
Gay [4d\]: ofcourse 9p is great 
EagleHelm [11k\]: lol
teamochi [9k\]: lol
]
;B[bk]C[Blockdude [3k\]: i know both these players
]
;W[bj]C[Mushroomzz [1k?\]: yea me too
Blockdude [3k\]: zhongxia doesnt have a chance
]
;B[bl]C[Richdad [5d\]: H5 must be bad move
Richdad [5d\]: probably should G6
EagleHelm [11k\]: really?
]
;W[fl]C[chrono3450 [1d\]: takemiya is giving speech in the mingjiu match
chrono3450 [1d\]: xD
ShihChing [8k\]: During it?
chrono3450 [1d\]: yes
]
;B[ej]C[Richdad [5d\]: w clearly good
Richdad [5d\]: d15 is perfect
chrono3450 [1d\]: the scriber is typing it for the peanut gallery
ShihChing [8k\]: Where? I'm in that match, I see nothing.
chrono3450 [1d\]: USGO15
]
;W[ei]
;B[gk]C[Zvi [6k\]: usa championship? :o
]
;W[gl]C[Gay [4d\]: H6 is flying stones now
Gay [4d\]: Feng yun will kill them
lustcautio [7d?\]: 31 moves, b already collapsed
SenNoRenju [3k\]: h9
fallen6 [6k\]: two weak b groups
EagleHelm [11k\]: she is 9p Zhongxia should have gottern at least 2 handi
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;B[gj]
;W[hl]
;B[gn]
;W[fn]C[Zvi [6k\]: isn't it a tournament game?
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;B[di]C[Zvi [6k\]: i mean, i thought in tourney's they don't give handi
krakengo [1k\]: so many games !
krakengo [1k\]: man ! is this a plot to keep me from sleeping ?
TheCATS [2d\]: wow such hard fighting for black
Zvi [6k\]: lol
krakengo [1k\]: then it succeeds... ^^
EagleHelm [11k\]: Zvi you are right. I am just saying
Zvi [6k\]: why are they playing so fast ?
USGO2 [-\]: Welcome to the 2008 North American Ing Masters (NAIM) Tournament! Thirty-two top players from North American are competing in the 5-round tournament for $10,000 in prizes. The top boards are being broadcast live by the American Go E-Journal; go news from around the world, free every week via email; sign up at www.usgo.org Time limits are 90 minutes basic time, 5 periods of 1 minute byo yomi
Zvi [6k\]: oh, well, tourney's aren't fair then :p
saiki [-\]: its a competitiong
saiki [-\]: oops bad spelling
EagleHelm [11k\]: its entirely fair
saiki [-\]: i absolutely agree
saiki [-\]: its like you play at your own risk kinda thing
Zvi [6k\]: yeah it is. i ment it in the other way :o
saiki [-\]: oh
saiki [-\]: haha
Zvi [6k\]: i mean, it's not kgs fair. you don't get handi for beeing weaker
Zvi [6k\]: it's the best player wins
Blockdude [3k\]: well
saiki [-\]: yea
Blockdude [3k\]: thats kinda the point
Zvi [6k\]: i know, i really think that's the way to do it
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;W[ci]
;B[dh]C[Zvi [6k\]: ah, level balancing is what i was looking for. it's not level balancing. and that's good
]
;W[ch]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: white is playing so well
saiki [-\]: agree
Zvi [6k\]: can black push one more ?
Gaxx [3k\]: white is 9p. he is expected to play well :P
Blockdude [3k\]: white is 1 of 2 strongest female [playeres in the world
EagleHelm [11k\]: she
saiki [-\]: i gotta say black is doing well agaist a pro
EagleHelm [11k\]: yes
gtgrouch [7k\]: strengthens white's side group
XY0908 [-\]: Who gets sente is the biggiest question here.
YangX [4d\]: if u ask me, i see blacck falling apart
Zvi [6k\]: black isn't pro ?
teamochi [9k\]: Isn't Feng Yun a women?
Blockdude [3k\]: yes
saiki [-\]: i mean white
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: I'm still 9k. How do I tell if they're playing well xD
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;B[dg]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: i would be happy to be as strong as either of them
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;W[cg]C[zedea [4d\]: no..
teamochi [9k\]: That's the truth :P
]
;B[fh]C[zedea [4d\]: fengyun a woman, not a women
Blockdude [3k\]: lol
fluffy [3k\]: lol
gavrieltal [18k\]: lol
saiki [-\]: k....
Zvi [6k\]: hmm
fluffy [3k\]: b stil has unsightly looking lump at h4
Gay [4d\]: she is my girlfriend
Zvi [6k\]: isn't black also pro?
EagleHelm [11k\]: nope
Blockdude [3k\]: eww gay..
Zvi [6k\]: lol
Blockdude [3k\]: dude, ive seen your profile pic
Durgrim [3k\]: What is this ?
Zvi [6k\]: well, then black is 6 amature dan ?
gavrieltal [18k\]: yes
]
;W[jn]C[esrig [7k\]: who gets to play k6?
]
;B[im]C[Zvi [6k\]: then he's doing great :/
Gay [4d\]: good one esrig!
Blockdude [3k\]: if your an AGA newcomer, and you register yourself as a 9dan, do you get to play in the pro room?
saiki [-\]: black is trying to push again yay
saiki [-\]: ^^
Zvi [6k\]: i think you can't register to more then 2d
fairgo1 [10k\]: hmm
]
;W[hj]C[Blockdude [3k\]: oh
Zvi [6k\]: i'm not sure
zedea [4d\]: interesting move
Blockdude [3k\]: cuz my ..... 8k-ish friend wanted to do that at the US Open
Gaxx [3k\]: ...why?
Blockdude [3k\]: so he can play the pros
Blockdude [3k\]: and then everyone on KGS will see him get wrecked
saiki [-\]: haha
Zvi [6k\]: sounds like fun
Zvi [6k\]: btw blockdude, i somehow confused aga to igs. sorry, don't listen to what i said
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: what's the opposite of sandbagging?
Zvi [6k\]: lol
saiki [-\]: bagginsand
Anberlin [6k\]: XD
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: lol
EagleHelm [11k\]: hot air ballooning
]
;B[hk]C[Blockdude [3k\]: no
Zvi [6k\]: gniggabdnas
Blockdude [3k\]: its gniggabdnas
Zvi [6k\]: :)
Blockdude [3k\]: >.>
EagleHelm [11k\]: that word looks bad
Gaxx [3k\]: i thought it was helium bagging?
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: LOL
t0Strong4u [-\]: yey go fengyun
Zvi [6k\]: it's a bad shape
zedea [4d\]: hmm  H9 good?
YangX [4d\]: block
Blockdude [3k\]: wat?
Zvi [6k\]: why is helium the opposite of sand? :o
YangX [4d\]: j9 
Blockdude [3k\]: ...
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: ...
Blockdude [3k\]: then black plays j8 and its a fight
ShihChing [8k\]: Must root root root for the underdog here..
EagleHelm [11k\]: j9 is an ugly move
gavrieltal [18k\]: why can't black just go f11 and save his group?
Zvi [6k\]: i'd go j8
Gay [4d\]: j9 is tesuji
EagleHelm [11k\]: but it might work
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: I spy an empty triangle
Blockdude [3k\]: he doesnt need f11
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;W[il]
;B[jm]C[kishambo [4k\]: j9 j8 f10 
]
;W[ik]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: or not kish
]
;B[gi]C[saiki [-\]: well black new wat to do haha good for you
EagleHelm [11k\]: yay black!
t0Strong4u [-\]: yay white
EagleHelm [11k\]: yes
kayzac [2k\]: now w make lots of points at n4 with good chase
kishambo [4k\]: sure. it was answer of what happens for bluckdudes j8 
Blockdude [3k\]: usually i would root for the underdog...
EagleHelm [11k\]: that would be like the best chase ever kayzac
Blockdude [3k\]: but there are special occasions, where the situation is literally hopeless
Zvi [6k\]: i usually root for the one plays the more awesome moves
EagleHelm [11k\]: i'm not sure black would allow it
Zvi [6k\]: w: n4 b: tenuki to wait for a better time to run ?
EagleHelm [11k\]: not n4
Gaxx [3k\]: i wouldn't really call n4 tenuki
EagleHelm [11k\]: l7 
kayzac [2k\]: i dont mean play n4 ... i mean make points there ...
kishambo [4k\]: eagle: of course not, thats why j8 for followup was bad ;)
Zvi [6k\]: i mean, running is clearly losing the game :/
webby913 [14k\]: is this live game?
Over9k [5k\]: yea
Blockdude [3k\]: yes
webby913 [14k\]: thx
Gay [4d\]: are they playing on kgs?
Over9k [5k\]: pros are amazing at endgame...
Over9k [5k\]: on
Over9k [5k\]: no*
Over9k [5k\]: it's in iowa
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: Liveas of 10 PM EDT
Over9k [5k\]: i think
Zvi [6k\]: feng yun used her mind-powers to stop the tourney clocks
USGO2 [-\]: Welcome to the 2008 North American Ing Masters (NAIM) Tournament! Thirty-two top players from North American are competing in the 5-round tournament for $10,000 in prizes. The top boards are being broadcast live by the American Go E-Journal; go news from around the world, free every week via email; sign up at www.usgo.org.  Time limits are 90 minutes basic time, 5 periods of 1 minute byo yomi
dddaaa: Is Zhao Feng's Student?
EagleHelm [11k\]: who is zhao feng?
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;W[df]C[USGO2 [-\]: Go Congress is in Portland, Oregon this year
Zvi [6k\]: he ment if zhao, is feng's student
Gaxx [3k\]: wouldn't have guessed d14 >_>
EagleHelm [11k\]: i would have
]
;B[kn]C[jawnaw2000 [9k\]: was it completely settled before d14?
]
;W[ko]C[Over9k [5k\]: kevin huang could nto make it this year?
teamochi [9k\]: what is the komi
]
;B[ln]C[Anberlin [6k\]: 8
EagleHelm [11k\]: 8
teamochi [9k\]: no .5?
Gay [4d\]: 8?!
t0Strong4u [-\]: is it really 8
Hagalaz [4k\]: go FENG
Anberlin [6k\]: no, its 8
Gay [4d\]: that is much
Gay [4d\]: !
EagleHelm [11k\]: look at the rules
t0Strong4u [-\]: wth, thats huge
EagleHelm [11k\]: its 8
Zvi [6k\]: oh, this is nz rules??
Over9k [5k\]: 8 is the same
t0Strong4u [-\]: that really is a lot
Gaxx [3k\]: 8 as in 7.5 or 8.5?... or.... 8 flat?
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: it's ING rules so they're kind of wierd
USGO2 [-\]: Ing rules
Hagalaz [4k\]: would be funny if she'd be playing richard ;)
Over9k [5k\]: for chinese it's 7.5
Anberlin [6k\]: I think weve said its 8 like 50 times
Zvi [6k\]: flat 8
Anberlin [6k\]: but hey
Gay [4d\]: Ing rules?
Anberlin [6k\]: its 8!!??111
Over9k [5k\]: but white wins jigo
Over9k [5k\]: so 8 is the same
Zvi [6k\]: really?
Zvi [6k\]: i thought you can get a tie
Over9k [5k\]: extra point than japense because stones are points too
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: isn't there suicide in ING rules?
EagleHelm [11k\]: yep
Zvi [6k\]: yeah
Over9k [5k\]: yea
Gaxx [3k\]: 8 but white wins jigo, so its 8.5 then essentially?
Shay [8k\]: Hey Feite -- cheering for Feng !
EagleHelm [11k\]: self capture can be a good ko threat
Anberlin [6k\]: hi shay
]
;W[mp]C[Gay [4d\]: do stones count as points?
Gay [4d\]: in ing rules
EagleHelm [11k\]: yes
Mushroomzz [1k?\]: its not 8.5
Gay [4d\]: omg
USGO2 [-\]: both players have stepped out
Mushroomzz [1k?\]: it's 8
t0Strong4u [-\]: k10 
Mushroomzz [1k?\]: jigo possible
Over9k [5k\]: no for 7.5 white wins jigo
Gay [4d\]: isn't that hard to count then?
EagleHelm [11k\]: not really
EagleHelm [11k\]: just count the stones
Gaxx [3k\]: T_T
Zvi [6k\]: it's actually easier to count
Gay [4d\]: y
Gay [4d\]: with sce^^
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: .5 isn't hard to count :)
Zvi [6k\]: cause you don't need to think if the territory will get reduced or not
Zvi [6k\]: as long as it lives, whatever's there is points
Gaxx [3k\]: it can still be reduced just the same O_o
EagleHelm [11k\]: score estimator says black is a head
]
;B[kk]C[Zvi [6k\]: yeah can still reduce, but i don't know, makes i  easier :/
Zvi [6k\]: SE is a god, we must have faith in him
EagleHelm [11k\]: lol
t0Strong4u [-\]: no
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: SE FTW
Zvi [6k\]: infidels :/
Gay [4d\]: i wonder who would win SE or Feng Yun
EagleHelm [11k\]: but i think black is ahead as well
Zvi [6k\]: SE , obviously
t0Strong4u [-\]: SE is actually pretty accurate in endgame
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: to answer your question SW--Chuck Norris would win
Gay [4d\]: serious?
Blockdude [3k\]: okay
Zvi [6k\]: yeah but sometimes it thinks living things are dead, or seki
kayzac [2k\]: i would have played L6 instead of d14 ... but feng shows that he gets n4 points in sente and gets to play d14 ... very strong
Blockdude [3k\]: chuck norris out of this
Gaxx [3k\]: i want to see SE vs Chuck Norris
warzone [7d\]: this is AGA RANKS ?
ScudRunner [5k\]: SE would just confuse Feng Yun into a series of seizures
Anberlin [6k\]: yes
EagleHelm [11k\]: poor feng
warzone [7d\]: omg AGA 6 dan agienst 9 pro 
Anberlin [6k\]: shes not behind
Blockdude [3k\]: all chuck norris fans are actually femenine on the inside
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: I am feminine :)
craig [4k\]: she's not ahead
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: with chest hair
EagleHelm [11k\]: thats just cause chuck loves the ladies!
Blockdude [3k\]: ...
KGSPlus [-\]: please keep comments related to the game
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: sorry
Anberlin [6k\]: Lol
Zvi [6k\]: awww :( 
Zvi [6k\]: well
EagleHelm [11k\]: so l9?
Zvi [6k\]: can white tenuki ?
Anberlin [6k\]: this is good game.
EagleHelm [11k\]: good move?
Blockdude [3k\]: its a decent move
t0Strong4u [-\]: fengyun ftw
warzone [7d\]: w tanuki wiil be very danguers
]
;W[kj]C[Gay [4d\]: i think w c2 would be really big move
Over9k [5k\]: didn't fengyun win last year?
EagleHelm [11k\]: oooh!
fluffy [3k\]: feng yun is american?
USGO2 [-\]: needless to say, both players are back:)
]
;B[lj]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: shiney! that was an amazing move
Anberlin [6k\]: shes chinese
t0Strong4u [-\]: no she is not american
Anberlin [6k\]: she lives in NJ
Zvi [6k\]: back? were they off ?
t0Strong4u [-\]: she lives in livingston
]
;W[ki]C[jawnaw2000 [9k\]: Is there a list of everyone in the Ing tourney?
t0Strong4u [-\]: NJ
Anberlin [6k\]: yeh
USGO2 [-\]: Welcome to the 2008 North American Ing Masters (NAIM) Tournament! Thirty-two top players from North American are competing in the 5-round tournament for $10,000 in prizes. The top boards are being broadcast live by the American Go E-Journal; go news from around the world, free every week via email; sign up at www.usgo.org.  Time limits are 90 minutes basic time, 5 periods of 1 minute byo yomi
fluffy [3k\]: what is 2nd strongest female pro doing in NJ
esrig [7k\]: teaching lessons
Anberlin [6k\]: Teaching
Anberlin [6k\]: what elce?
Zvi [6k\]: winning
Kscnoko123 [1k\]: come on feng yun win it!
t0Strong4u [-\]: hey guys want to see my other account?
]
;B[lk]C[Nerdkibitz: Jawnaw --- http://usgo.org/naim/band-matrix/32
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: thanks
ShihChing [8k\]: AGA E-Journal is wonderful for those who don't receive it each week.
vavoysh [7k\]: she's being completely awesome cuz new jersey rocks
USGO [1k\]: haha
Blockdude [3k\]: yeah, NJ has the lowest gas prices
Anberlin [6k\]: are you serious?
Blockdude [3k\]: what do you got?
Zvi [6k\]: i'm moving there , then
Anberlin [6k\]: Its like 4 bucks
Blockdude [3k\]: 3.75 last time i checked >.>
Zvi [6k\]: i mean, a 9p + low gas prices, it's like my dream
vavoysh [7k\]: 3-70 at my place
EagleHelm [11k\]: arizonas down in 3.87
Anberlin [6k\]: hahahaha zvi
]
;W[gg]C[t0Strong4u [-\]: right now NJ gas is like 3:80
mollycat [10k\]: 3.69 in nebraska
Blockdude [3k\]: and a 7% tax
Blockdude [3k\]: which kinda sux
EagleHelm [11k\]: lol
USGO2 [-\]: Please keep comments related to the game.  Thanks,
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: comments to game LOL
Anberlin [6k\]: right rofl
Zvi [6k\]: right :/
YangX [4d\]: B will prob die here
PlayerX [-\]: H13 totally a pro move
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: so is g13
rosepark22 [3k\]: is this game live?
Zvi [6k\]: you mean g13 ?
PlayerX [-\]: sorry, G13
saiki [-\]: g13
Zvi [6k\]: forgiven, but next time be more carefull , or else..
EagleHelm [11k\]: who is winning
saiki [-\]: nice
Zvi [6k\]: :D
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: lol
USGO2 [-\]: Yes, this game is live
fairgo1 [10k\]: h12 for black?
Zvi [6k\]: j12 maybe
Anjimito [5k\]: this will be a great game
EagleHelm [11k\]: no
Zvi [6k\]: but all looks bad
EagleHelm [11k\]: h12 is a terrible move
Kscnoko123 [1k\]: This game is about fighting..
fairgo1 [10k\]: why?
rosepark22 [3k\]: please give us short description on what is NAIM means
Zvi [6k\]: it's main, the other way around
sixin1999 [?\]: 看求不懂英语
GaretJax [6k\]: North American In g Masters
EagleHelm [11k\]: North american Ing masters
Over9k [5k\]: h12 if ignored j10 makes life?
sixin1999 [?\]: 那个讲个汉话嘛
soulmate [5d\]: 你好
Gay [4d\]: please keep it english!
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;B[ii]C[rosepark22 [3k\]: professional and amateur are all allowed?
saiki [-\]: lets see if white will issolate black
Gay [4d\]: i wanna understand all comments related to game
Over9k [5k\]: ahh my chinese software expired
Over9k [5k\]: noooo
sixin1999 [?\]: 你好...难得见一个中国人呀
soulmate [5d\]: 你是哪里的
GaretJax [6k\]: It's an invitational
Zvi [6k\]: if h11 then cut and got for impossible semeai ?
USGO2 [-\]: Yes, this is a pro-am tournament
EagleHelm [11k\]: We are in english game room
Zvi [6k\]: ah, doesn't work, cuting
t0Strong4u [-\]: USGO2, what is the times? please and thank you
Zvi [6k\]: cutting *
sixin1999 [?\]: 成都呢.你呢.今天
soulmate [5d\]: 淄博
Kscnoko123 [1k\]: wait a second since when only english is to be used
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: asking alot strong
Hactar [3d\]: 江苏
t0Strong4u [-\]: huh?
EagleHelm [11k\]: please clone if you wish to speak in other languagers
soulmate [5d\]: 山东
vavoysh [7k\]: watch, i can speak in a language that none of you have on your comps
rosepark22 [3k\]: Isn't Feng Yun .... one of the few femail 9p ?
t0Strong4u [-\]: yes
vavoysh [7k\]: [\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\][\]
Anberlin [6k\]: female*
EagleHelm [11k\]: *languages
USGO2 [-\]: Feng Yun has 1:05 remaining.
tetris [-\]: no, any language can be used in kibitz
Zvi [6k\]: amazing vovoysh
tetris [-\]: the admins say that
soulmate [5d\]: Thanks
tetris [-\]: hi soulmate!
t0Strong4u [-\]: \]: USGO2, what is the times? please and thank you
soulmate [5d\]: Hi,tetris
fakemeba [3d\]: hyak ang sul kean sing hmin
saiki [-\]: he just told you
EagleHelm [11k\]: vayosh you are just speaking box
t0Strong4u [-\]: oh thanks
t0Strong4u [-\]: lol
Hactar [3d\]: vavoysh: your squares are not the right squares :P
t0Strong4u [-\]: didn't c
sixin1999 [?\]: 今天火矩到这里哈
sixin1999 [?\]: 你们等及高哦..
Zvi [6k\]: funny, they played fuseki very fast, and now slowed alot
soulmate [5d\]: 没有
USGO2 [-\]: Zhongxiz has 1:14
teamochi [9k\]: who is winning?
t0Strong4u [-\]: ok, thanks
EagleHelm [11k\]: fuseki is easy
Zvi [6k\]: i'd say white is
EagleHelm [11k\]: middlegame is hard
Zvi [6k\]: fuseki has alot into it eagle :/
kayzac [2k\]: i like w h11
Zvi [6k\]: fuseki is what got black into this mess
tetris [-\]: everything is hard for 11k
t0Strong4u [-\]: true
Zvi [6k\]: yey, the too strong guy agrees :D
Blockdude [3k\]: im more midgame type of person
Blockdude [3k\]: not interested in fuseki
tetris [-\]: hehe
katori15 [5k\]: Liang vs Zhang is over turn 170
EagleHelm [11k\]: i screw up in middle game
esrig [7k\]: if w connects, b can cut?
ShinHonaka [1k\]: what is fuseki O_O
soulmate [5d\]: 刚才有位朋友是苏州的
soulmate [5d\]: ？
aussiemate [7k\]: fuseki is for beginners
]
;W[hi]
;B[hh]C[Gay [4d\]: fuseki is joseki i think
]
;W[ij]C[Gaxx [3k\]: fuseki is the first few moves of the game
Hactar [3d\]: 呵呵，在这里
]
;B[gh]
;W[ih]C[ShinHonaka [1k\]: so isn't it joseki then
EagleHelm [11k\]: atari ftw!
Kscnoko123 [1k\]: I don't think there is any fuseki in this game
soulmate [5d\]: 呵呵
Zvi [6k\]: fuseki is starting moves. joseki are pre-determined seqeunces for starting moves
]
;B[ig]
;W[jh]C[ShinHonaka [1k\]: oh
EagleHelm [11k\]: yay!
]
;B[hg]C[Gaxx [3k\]: Joseki can take place later in the game, too
teamochi [9k\]: hmmm
daveg [?\]: I heard that pros say that fuseki is the hardest part of the game :)
USGO2 [-\]: Yes, they really played that fast
tetris [-\]:  joseki have variations, too--not predetermined
]
;W[mh]C[Zvi [6k\]: yes, but are most commonly used on the start
Kscnoko123 [1k\]: joseki are patterns that help one understand how reading works. Other than that it's useless
krakengo [1k\]: oh fighting game
Zvi [6k\]: well, i did my best to explain it in 1 sentence okay? :(
Gay [4d\]: your best is not enough sorry
t0Strong4u [-\]: haha
Gay [4d\]: but good try
Zvi [6k\]: anyway, when josekis are played on the start, they are considered fuseki, i think
EagleHelm [11k\]: g14?
Zvi [6k\]: thanks
]
;B[qn]C[tetris [-\]: well, no
tetris [-\]: a joseki is a commonly used pattern of corner moves that leaves b and w with equal results
danmaybe [2k\]: fu  seki//// means really balanced way
tetris [-\]: you often find josekis used during fuseki
sixin1999 [?\]: 哎
daveg [?\]: You can do 4 perfect joseki and LOSE the game :)
tetris [-\]: --that is, during the opening
daveg [?\]: Fuseki also very important :)
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: daveg--don't be a fatalist
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: :)
Kscnoko123 [1k\]: A joseki NEVER leaves equal results. It always depends on the board and the local situation
tetris [-\]: don't tell him what to do
Gaxx [3k\]: fuseki isn't predetermined. it's just establishing your positions at the beginning of the game whether you use any joseki in the process or not.
aussiemate [7k\]: joseki has to match the game
tetris [-\]: nobody said fuseki is predetermined
mollycat [10k\]: how long can white leave the top alone?
EagleHelm [11k\]: fuseki is opening. not a set of moves
Zvi [6k\]: q6 here ?
sixin1999 [?\]: 看不懂下的什么..也听不懂..俺走了....888
Hactar [3d\]: 88
soulmate [5d\]: 88
Zvi [6k\]: i agree with sixin
threeoone [5k\]: joseki = corner sequences; may spread out to the whole board (e.g. avalanche, taisha...)
threeoone [5k\]: fuseki = the opening
soulmate [5d\]: hehe
tetris [-\]: hehe
Gay [4d\]: how old are teh players?
Zvi [6k\]: okay, must it be said 12 times so we will ge it ?
EagleHelm [11k\]: fen yun is going on 50 i think
]
;W[fg]C[daveg [?\]: 1000 words of Go theory is not as good as a little good reading :)
Firzen [3d\]: agreed
Kscnoko123 [1k\]: or memorizing common tsumego shapes
Zvi [6k\]: time to take eyes ?
t0Strong4u [-\]: feng yun is prob 20-something
tetris [-\]: i'm out of orange juice
t0Strong4u [-\]: 30***
t0Strong4u [-\]: not 20
esrig [7k\]: according to http://www.gocongress08.org/pros.php feng yun was born in 1967
Kscnoko123 [1k\]: you will be suprised how many of them show up during your games
DaoLin [3d?\]: Feng Yun is less than 50
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;B[gf]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: i was close
fairgo1 [10k\]: O_O
t0Strong4u [-\]: 41
threeoone [5k\]: they are younger than me
t0Strong4u [-\]: haha
daveg [?\]: Big mistake!
tetris [-\]: this move?
Gaxx [3k\]: no?
Kscnoko123 [1k\]: Common tsumego shapes+reading=deadly
Zvi [6k\]: time to take eyes away ?
EagleHelm [11k\]: i like this
tofutofu [1k\]: e12
fairgo1 [10k\]: e12
ShihChing [8k\]: Didn't anyone ever tell you to guess a lady's age far below your true perception?
daveg [?\]: E12!
t0Strong4u [-\]: lol wth
Firzen [3d\]: e12=small
]
;W[fe]C[threeoone [5k\]: that hane seems bad
tetris [-\]: aha ic dave
Kscnoko123 [1k\]: sure
EagleHelm [11k\]: black is trying to make a wall
Zvi [6k\]: f15 is strong
daveg [?\]: Small? But no eyes for black :)
t0Strong4u [-\]: lol
Firzen [3d\]: black isn't alive locally
]
;B[gc]C[Zvi [6k\]: yeah but he's pretty out by now
Firzen [3d\]: so he wants contact to the upper side
saiki [-\]: dang white is GOOD
TheCATS [2d\]: only 9p, not that good :)
EagleHelm [11k\]: both are amazing
Gay [4d\]: i would be good if i were 9p too
tetris [-\]: w is feng yun! of course good
]
;W[fc]
;B[fb]C[Gay [4d\]: i think
saiki [-\]: man if only i played like that
]
;W[he]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: i would be content to be as strong as either of them
threeoone [5k\]: g14 better at g15 ?
USGO2 [-\]: played with force
tofutofu [1k\]: white is going for it
Gay [4d\]: you could life happily ^^
saiki [-\]: *sigh
t0Strong4u [-\]: fengyun enjoys slamming down stones, esp. in handi games
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: Are the other ING boards gonna be broadcast. boards 16+
Zvi [6k\]: i don't think anyone here can dissagree with white's moves three
EagleHelm [11k\]: i think the right move here is e13
Firzen [3d\]: lol
Zvi [6k\]: eagle
Gay [4d\]: WHY e13?
USGO2 [-\]: there are only 16 boards in the tournament.
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;B[jg]C[Zvi [6k\]: e13 is a really small gote
TheCATS [2d\]: a1 w best move
Zvi [6k\]: t1 better
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: so the other players haven't started yet?
EagleHelm [11k\]: they have
saiki [-\]: li like a19
Kael [2d\]: someone does that a1 / t1 thing every game :P 
EagleHelm [11k\]: they just aren't broadcasting one board
Zvi [6k\]: t19 usually
TheCATS [2d\]: no, a1 better than t1 because it's more active--invading. t1 is korigatachi
USGO2 [-\]: Please look for games by USGOxx
Zvi [6k\]: well
USGO2 [-\]: Most, but not all boards are being broadcast
Zvi [6k\]: a1 leaves good aji if fails, but t1 gives high strength for corner
USGO2 [-\]: xx is the board number
t0Strong4u [-\]: lol....i have an account called USGO
t0Strong4u [-\]: haha
daveg [?\]: L13?
Gay [4d\]: USGO2 who are you by the way?
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: Ok, there are 32 players in the ING tourney so I was just wondering
Zvi [6k\]: he is United States Go Organization 2
USGO2 [-\]: The game recorder (Trnscriber in the info)
]
;W[li]C[Gay [4d\]: o
Gay [4d\]: i though you were bot or something
t0Strong4u [-\]: lol
Over9k [5k\]: lol
Blockdude [3k\]: lol no
]
;B[kh]
;W[ji]C[Blockdude [3k\]: he responds to some of the kibitz
EagleHelm [11k\]: No zvi
USGO2 [-\]: nope, just a volunteer
EagleHelm [11k\]: just US go
Over9k [5k\]: pretty advanced bot...
Gay [4d\]: well you know!
Kscnoko123 [1k\]: black got chased
Gay [4d\]: bots can be smart these days
]
;B[ke]C[Gaxx [3k\]: advanced enough to know that Chuck Norris vs SE is off-topic :(
Torpor [-\]: A new version of the popular turing test.  Whether an artificial intelligence can hold up his own in kibitz
GaretJax [6k\]: well, if he's a bot, he just won at the turing test.
Torpor [-\]: Hehe
TheCATS [2d\]: yeah, bots are smart... ask you out and get your telephone number
]
;W[gb]C[t0Strong4u [-\]: that'd be weird
NoKnott [-\]: Please keep comments on the game
kayzac [2k\]: i think b k16 has more merit
tofutofu [1k\]: L12 was quite high-class I think
t0Strong4u [-\]: cross cut looks intresting
Firzen [3d\]: I don't get this move at all ^^
daveg [?\]: W can afford a strong attack, because all shapes are pretty strong
Gay [4d\]: its very strong move
daveg [?\]: At least "pretty"
Gay [4d\]: but 3 dans aren't supposed to see it though
Modoc [9k\]: I think W is going to try and take the top left
EagleHelm [11k\]: m12
t0Strong4u [-\]: lol gay
Firzen [3d\]: so I'll need to login with my 4d account? :D
Gay [4d\]: what could account change help you?
DaoLin [3d?\]: W84: with either 2 moves in a row on top, or below, W seems able to surround black's groups; 
Gaxx [3k\]: well, this 3 kyu sure can't see it :/
t0Strong4u [-\]: most can't
Gay [4d\]: you think you are 9p level?
t0Strong4u [-\]: i wish
Over9k [5k\]: well isn't withe going to attack the not alive black group
Blockdude [3k\]: i would do e17 then h189
Over9k [5k\]: for the top basically
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;B[fd]
;W[gd]
;B[ec]
;W[hc]C[Durgrim [3k\]: 9p is realy better than 6d ?
EagleHelm [11k\]: yes lol
DaoLin [3d?\]: with a CN-6d rating, Black has about 3% winnining probability
kyuboy [9k\]: yes
t0Strong4u [-\]: ....
Blockdude [3k\]: no
Blockdude [3k\]: 6d waaaaaaaaaaay better
kyuboy [9k\]: -.-
Over9k [5k\]: well in korea...
Hoole3 [9k\]: what is going on? is this a proffesional match?
daveg [?\]: Looks like infinite ko threats for W :)
]
;B[fc]C[USGO2 [-\]: Welcome to the 2008 North American Ing Masters (NAIM) Tournament! Thirty-two top players from North American are competing in the 5-round tournament for $10,000 in prizes. The top boards are being broadcast live by the American Go E-Journal; go news from around the world, free every week via email; sign up at www.usgo.org.  Time limits are 90 minutes basic time, 5 periods of 1 minute byo yomi
Gay [4d\]: one pro one amateur match
USGO2 [-\]: This is board 2
Hoole3 [9k\]: cool
Hoole3 [9k\]: thank you
EagleHelm [11k\]: white looks loose
Blockdude [3k\]: zhongxia is not ameteur
Blockdude [3k\]: he is just young
EagleHelm [11k\]: yes he is
EagleHelm [11k\]: he hasn't gone pro yet
Blockdude [3k\]: and Gay you wouldnt fare much better if you were playing Feng Yun
tofutofu [1k\]: I would play F14 here
Mushroomzz [1k?\]: blockdude.. dude. he is amateur
GaretJax [6k\]: USGO, you might want to add that this is an invitational to that spiel.  
GaretJax [6k\]: :p
DaoLin [3d?\]: if 6d was normal amateur 6d ->  <<< 1% chance
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;W[ff]C[Hoole3 [9k\]: why don't they get handi?
tofutofu [1k\]: !
]
;B[id]C[soulmate [5d\]: Get handi
]
;W[hd]C[GaretJax [6k\]: something like "an invitational tournament using the ING rules.
soulmate [5d\]: you are kidding?
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: open tourney Hoole
Over9k [5k\]: it's an open tournament
Zvi [6k\]: aww :( my net crashed
Hoole3 [9k\]: I'm sorry. This is new too me
fluffy [3k\]: this is kind of a strange tournament though...amas and pros in the same one
Hoole3 [9k\]: I've never seen this many pros at once on the net
EagleHelm [11k\]: they aren't on the net
EagleHelm [11k\]: this is just the broadcast
GaretJax [6k\]: let's not confuse him...
t0Strong4u [-\]: they are in oregon
Hoole3 [9k\]: too late^^
Over9k [5k\]: was the finals last year mingjiu V Feng Yun?
t0Strong4u [-\]: yes
soulmate [5d\]: Tell you,It's said Chinese top go playes just give 1 handicap to 5 oftop AMA
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;B[od]C[soulmate [5d\]: Chinese go players
tofutofu [1k\]: Black can only win if White makes a mistake
Zvi [6k\]: if white decides to attack r6 stone, what would be the best move here ?
]
;W[pn]C[Hoole3 [9k\]: can we see this live, as in the actual people playing the game?
t0Strong4u [-\]: there you go
t0Strong4u [-\]: lol
Aliens243 [9k?\]: q6 would be the right move
Hactar [3d\]: haha 
Kael [2d\]: he's not attakcing R6 really though 
Zvi [6k\]: lol thanks
GaretJax [6k\]: only if you go to oregon
Kael [2d\]: he's attacking M6 I think
daveg [?\]: What about O16?
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: Is b aiming for 3-3 R3?
Audwulf [16k\]: its in portland
FinalAeon [8k\]: m6 pressure
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;B[pm]C[tofutofu [1k\]: right he's making R6 stronger
Zvi [6k\]: yes but m6 is part of this position
t0Strong4u [-\]: double?
t0Strong4u [-\]: nahh
Hactar [3d\]: also aiming at K7 group
XY0908 [-\]: R7?
Zvi [6k\]: trying to connect m9
Zvi [6k\]: i think
tofutofu [1k\]: simply P6
tofutofu [1k\]: naah
kayzac [2k\]: r5
Zvi [6k\]: o7
tofutofu [1k\]: R5 bad here
Aronvitki [12k\]: They're still establishing moyo.
RyuuGan [2k\]: r5 p6 q5 p7 
EagleHelm [11k\]: no aron
Zvi [6k\]: no ?
DaoLin [3d?\]: w leaning attack, I guess - difficult to execute though
threeoone [5k\]: B q3 is quite an option aiming at l3
EagleHelm [11k\]: moyo doesn't invovle touch fighting
Zvi [6k\]: i think they are. it's just there there's a fight in the middle of it
kayzac [2k\]: but r 5 get corner in sente? still, you seem to be right
Zvi [6k\]: eagle, that's not true
Zvi [6k\]: i mean
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;W[qm]C[tofutofu [1k\]: wow
Zvi [6k\]: i saw many moyo's build in touch fighting
Zvi [6k\]: that's a strong way to build them
tofutofu [1k\]: dog fight
threeoone [5k\]: w prestalls that
Gay [4d\]: cut first think later!
]
;B[po]C[Zvi [6k\]: he did that just to annoy black
]
;W[on]
;B[qp]C[Zvi [6k\]: she*
]
;W[oo]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: white is angry
threeoone [5k\]: and vice versa
]
;B[qo]C[daveg [?\]: Actually, isn't this a joseki?
daveg [?\]: :)
t0Strong4u [-\]: it is
RyuuGan [2k\]: p8 ?
XY0908 [-\]: a proper joseki.
USGO2 [-\]: actually, much thinking went into that cut
Zvi [6k\]: p8 now ?
Gaxx [3k\]: somehow i don't think that "cut first think later" is the way that 9p's work in games where they have 90 minutes :P
USGO2 [-\]: black responded with vigor
Zvi [6k\]: usgo, i assume you are very strong? :o
tofutofu [1k\]: R8
Gay [4d\]: i think idea is to attack H4 stones
EagleHelm [11k\]: who is usgo?
Aronvitki [12k\]: No, I think R8 extend would be better.
EagleHelm [11k\]: let us know
Hoole3 [9k\]: I bet hes a pro
EagleHelm [11k\]: probably so
krakengo [1k\]: R3
Zvi [6k\]: usgo, unless you're not suppose to, why don't you join to out kibitz?
kayzac [2k\]: r8 would be ineffective 
Zvi [6k\]: our*
USGO2 [-\]: Too busy.
kayzac [2k\]: b just press down and be ok w/ h4 stones
EagleHelm [11k\]: who are you usgo?
Zvi [6k\]: oh :o
tofutofu [1k\]: R8 seems rather heavy
enerG [7k\]: ?
tofutofu [1k\]: R9
Zvi [6k\]: he's getting the game from the board to us
USGO2 [-\]: Just a 3d ama, volunteer. recorder
EagleHelm [11k\]: 3d is strong
kayzac [2k\]: maybe p9?
USGO2 [-\]: AGA
Mushroomzz [1k?\]: very stong
fluffy [3k\]: how is the environment there
USGO2 [-\]: maybe 1k KGS
t0Strong4u [-\]: lol
]
;W[qq]C[tofutofu [1k\]: or R3
Zvi [6k\]: lol
]
;B[pq]
;W[op]C[tofutofu [1k\]: see!
Aronvitki [12k\]: Not necessarily.  With R8, you can still establish a base on the right side.
t0Strong4u [-\]: aga 3d is like 3k in kgs
]
;B[rq]C[t0Strong4u [-\]: im just 1d aga
threeoone [5k\]: reading is a useless feature up to 4d cause weak dans judge the results most incorrect
]
;W[qr]
;B[rr]C[Zvi [6k\]: i don't like r8. it makes black alive already
Hagalaz [4k\]: right, "useless feature"
uurtamo [8k?\]: okay, that's just retarded.
Hoole3 [9k\]: how do you laern how to read
Hagalaz [4k\]: i'd love to play a 3d that can't read
uurtamo [8k?\]: focus on the game, please.
Zvi [6k\]: i like keeping weak groups weak, untill the end. even if they don't die
Hagalaz [4k\]: that'd be absolutely amazing
daveg [?\]: Smart player who wants to improve asks questions of strongest players here. Others just showing off ignorance. :)
Gay [4d\]: uurtamo we dont need to focus on game 
t0Strong4u [-\]: llol
Gay [4d\]: they do ^^
uurtamo [8k?\]: i see.
t0Strong4u [-\]: good one
Zvi [6k\]: lol
EagleHelm [11k\]: i like that move
tofutofu [1k\]: smart players try to think for themselves instead of relying on authorities
Torpor [-\]: Is White going to be able to pressure the lower middle black group after q8 ?
HotMale [4k\]: how come the 9p is thinking more than the 6d?
uurtamo [8k?\]: but seriously, 9 stones strength difference that says, "reading is a useless feature up to 9 stones stronger than me"
USGO2 [-\]: Feng Yun has 48 minutes left
Hoole3 [9k\]: q2?
Aronvitki [12k\]: But it's good to have a little verification now and then, tofu...
daveg [?\]: Pro has more information in brain to think with.
Gay [4d\]: he can see more moves ahead than the 6d i think
USGO2 [-\]: Zhongxia Zhao has 1:05 left
t0Strong4u [-\]: q2 seems slow though......
joelw [12k\]: playing quickly when you have that much time is foolish, 9p is showing experience
EagleHelm [11k\]: its not 9 stones difference
HotMale [4k\]: oh ic
Zvi [6k\]: :O
Hoole3 [9k\]: 9p how do you get that status
EagleHelm [11k\]: pro ranks are very different from amature ranks
Zvi [6k\]: 1:05?
Hoole3 [9k\]: play go all the time^^
Zvi [6k\]: that's not much
esrig [7k\]: quaify as a professional and win a bunch of tournaments
USGO2 [-\]: Sorry, 65 minutes
Zvi [6k\]: thanks :p
daveg [?\]: Very few people get accepted even to try to qualify as a new pro. :)
uurtamo [8k?\]: just be accepted as an insei and then kick everyone's butt?
hardtowin [1k\]: now i don't belive this 6d  ves9p
]
;W[rn]C[threeoone [5k\]: lets count:  w+12
EagleHelm [11k\]: a rank difference in pro ranks is like the weaker player taking black white black
krakengo [1k\]: secret move !!
baltomazta [3k\]: isnt there a certain age limit to become pro by?
EagleHelm [11k\]: 30
Tayfax [8k\]: yes
Gaxx [3k\]: depends on the country
Hoole3 [9k\]: q2!!!
baltomazta [3k\]: 30?
ketchup [5k\]: gaxx best answer!
Zvi [6k\]: i heared that in china it's 14
Hoole3 [9k\]: q2
EagleHelm [11k\]: 30 in japan
Hoole3 [9k\]: q2!!!
Hoole3 [9k\]: q2!!
t0Strong4u [-\]: slow
Zvi [6k\]: but that might be a myth
daveg [?\]: The tournament winner pros start very early usually. :)
baltomazta [3k\]: 14..?
]
;B[ro]
;W[so]
;B[rp]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: i think that is a myth zvi
Over9k [5k\]: q2 is sort of bad...
t0Strong4u [-\]: where is this going.....
Zvi [6k\]: q2 seems weak
krakengo [1k\]: very wrong
Zvi [6k\]: letting white get a strong base on the right side
krakengo [1k\]: that Q2
Over9k [5k\]: q2 s4 r1 s5 
Hoole3 [9k\]: well now it does
]
;W[ql]C[Zvi [6k\]: now it's forced :o
threeoone [5k\]: that undeniably goes after k7 
]
;B[pr]C[krakengo [1k\]: let b have it anyway
]
;W[nk]C[Gaxx [3k\]: aah there it is. just wanted that in sente
hardtowin [1k\]: b for sure is p level
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: niiice move
EagleHelm [11k\]: wow!
krakengo [1k\]: knock knock
USGO2 [-\]: that last played with force
fluffy [3k\]: hehe
krakengo [1k\]: any eyes around ? :)
Zvi [6k\]: lol
EagleHelm [11k\]: Clack!
fluffy [3k\]: how are their facial reactions?
Zvi [6k\]: describe, common
USGO2 [-\]: intent
Zvi [6k\]: :D
Hoole3 [9k\]: wow
Tayfax [8k\]: is this being televised?
krakengo [1k\]: she is a killer
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: Is there a puddle underneath black's seat?
daveg [?\]: Actually, very hard for amateurs to say if pro move is nice or bad :) :)
fluffy [3k\]: can you smel them?
Hoole3 [9k\]: is all the b dead now?
t0Strong4u [-\]: i was thinking about this move
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: Daveg--But I just did :)
krakengo [1k\]: b must be terrified
Hoole3 [9k\]: wow
EagleHelm [11k\]: ^_o is zhao!
flatulator [9k\]: that looks painful!
threeoone [5k\]: now the meaning of w K11 drops out of the fog
Zvi [6k\]: he was probably terrified when he sat next to the board
Iamdick [4d\]: it's not easy to kill b here
Hoole3 [9k\]: b needs new pants
Gay [4d\]: like i said before w aims to attack h4
Gay [4d\]: i am 9p level?
EagleHelm [11k\]: no lol
Zvi [6k\]: surely, gay
tofutofu [1k\]: one more move and it's a white moyo where once was a black moyo
daveg [?\]: Maybe W is playing here to find out what to do later on top :)
Zvi [6k\]: what else could you be if not 9p?
t0Strong4u [-\]: i dunno
t0Strong4u [-\]: 4d?
krakengo [1k\]: no easy to live, you mean
kayzac [2k\]: b has lots of room to work on k3 bottom ... ok, not "lots" of room. but i think he ok
Iamdick [4d\]: not easy to kill
krakengo [1k\]: it's dead =p
tofutofu [1k\]: impossible to kill
TheCATS [2d\]: if anyone can, feng yun can
]
;B[fp]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: i think its dead now
daveg [?\]: Maybe winning is enough? :) :)
t0Strong4u [-\]: semms like a good move
Zvi [6k\]: good move
joelw [12k\]: this should generate 1 eye
tofutofu [1k\]: it's alive now
uurtamo [8k?\]: he's soon to have zero eyes.
Zvi [6k\]: generate lol
Hoole3 [9k\]: hmm is b alive now?
XY0908 [-\]: B also has L3.
Gay [4d\]: if eaglehelm would be black it would die for sure
krakengo [1k\]: very optimistic
EagleHelm [11k\]: yes gay
Hoole3 [9k\]: what good would e3 do?
joelw [12k\]: f4 gets e4, no?
kayzac [2k\]: w has no territory yet
EagleHelm [11k\]: no joel
Iamdick [4d\]: if u think b is dead already...u must be kyu for sure
hardtowin [1k\]: if b live inthe middle then w is gone
krakengo [1k\]: a gain for w anyway, good prospects 
threeoone [5k\]: time to play aprobe at the upper right
Mushroomzz [1k?\]: tons of aji left
Gay [4d\]: pro players never aiming for kill
Nagual [2k\]: who cares for wining when killing is avaiable?
Over9k [5k\]: lol probes are fun
Hoole3 [9k\]: wow I didn't think pros could lose to dans...
daveg [?\]: Even if amateur guesses pro move, it doesn't mean much because very hard to know followup, etc. :)
enerG [7k\]: g4
Hoole3 [9k\]: kind of a let down
EagleHelm [11k\]: upper right isn't interesting yet
krakengo [1k\]: know about Kato ?
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: Gay--I want asource?
Zvi [6k\]: i think upper right can wait
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: source*
Hoole3 [9k\]: who is kato?
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: :)
Gay [4d\]: source?
Hoole3 [9k\]: another pro?
krakengo [1k\]: the killer...
lustcautio [7d?\]: a mild killer
USGO2 [-\]: Zhongxia has gone over to watch his friends playing the Redmond cup... USGO14
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: Pros really don't aim to kill?
USGO2 [-\]: he's back.
fluffy [3k\]: lol
EagleHelm [11k\]: nope
tofutofu [1k\]: white wants to play around N16
Gay [4d\]: they aim for influence and points
TheCATS [2d\]: kato masao famous pro, won lots of titles in 70s and 80s, i think?
daveg [?\]: Sometimes living isn't enough; lose too many points :)
Gay [4d\]: let life small 
EagleHelm [11k\]: aiming to kill is aiming to fail
Zvi [6k\]: i think they usually aim to force the opponent to live, and gain more
Nagual [2k\]: aiming to kill is fun
Zvi [6k\]: i agree
Gay [4d\]: yes for kyus
joelw [12k\]: d4 might be better
krakengo [1k\]: but when opponents fail to defend, you have to be able to kill
Speed [2k\]: or at least punish properly
Over9k [5k\]: or attack them for points
EagleHelm [11k\]: d4 not big enough
krakengo [1k\]: otherwise your attacks are slack, maybe ?
threeoone [5k\]: living is small in most cases, so is killing
Hoole3 [9k\]: so in all honesty who do you think will win this match? W is pro but b is still rather good. So B or W?
tofutofu [1k\]: d4 is extremely bad now
krakengo [1k\]: so, in a way, always aim to eventually kill
]
;W[fq]
;B[gq]C[Over9k [5k\]: pros are amazing at endgame
Zvi [6k\]: i'd go for white
Nagual [2k\]: for all who knows how to enjoy good thing in life, killing is ultimate pleasure in go
krakengo [1k\]: no endgame here though
EagleHelm [11k\]: pro endgame is beautiful and rare
]
;W[iq]C[Over9k [5k\]: there will be one
krakengo [1k\]: yeah ? :)
Hoole3 [9k\]: meaning that oponents usually resign before then?
Zvi [6k\]: how can you tell? ^^
EagleHelm [11k\]: usually one resigns
krakengo [1k\]: i feel it
t0Strong4u [-\]: lol...
t0Strong4u [-\]: not really
Gaxx [3k\]: there will only be an endgame if b lives and w doesn't resign as a result :P
soulmate [5d\]: 太残忍了
Over9k [5k\]: there's always an endgame at the finals
Firzen [3d\]: pro endgame isn't rare
EagleHelm [11k\]: pro's can read so far ahead that end game is useless
RyuuGan [2k\]: what does this mean?
Hoole3 [9k\]: so how long has this tournament been going on?
krakengo [1k\]: lol w don't need to resign
uurtamo [8k?\]: it's not so much beautiful as coldly efficient.
RyuuGan [2k\]: soulmate
Hoole3 [9k\]: how long is this torun?
soulmate [5d\]: Terrible
Speed [2k\]: eagle, if that were true every pro game would end in resign
joelw [12k\]: this is saying "if you cut off my e3 stones, I'll connect underneath you" and "I'll stop your expansion to the right now"
]
;B[ir]C[Zvi [6k\]: i think that after i've seen that 9p playing a self atari and losing, i would never resign again
Durgrim [3k\]: E
krakengo [1k\]: oh tesuji ! b is clever
]
;W[gr]C[Durgrim [3k\]: bE4 was good ?
YangX [4d\]: lol
]
;B[hr]C[krakengo [1k\]: hahaha
YangX [4d\]: counter-tesuji
NoKnott [-\]: For schedule of games, see info of USGo1
Zvi [6k\]: :O?
Zvi [6k\]: h3 ?
Zvi [6k\]: ah
]
;W[hq]
;B[gp]C[krakengo [1k\]: getting messy, ... bloody
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: azthanks noknott
NoKnott [-\]: yw
Zvi [6k\]: f1 here ?
soulmate [5d\]: Cruel
]
;W[fr]
;B[jq]
;W[ip]
;B[kq]C[Aronvitki [12k\]: b could possibly take the bottom side.
]
;W[lo]C[Zvi [6k\]: :o
YangX [4d\]: so....black was alive but then he tried playing a tesuji therefore causing him to die and probably lose?
Violet [2d\]: W alive there
Hoole3 [9k\]: wow well played
Violet [2d\]: unless B plays ko
lustcautio [7d?\]: I will say bravo to Zhongxia
Durgrim [3k\]: E4 ?
Gay [4d\]: b playing good
lustcautio [7d?\]: I managed to beat him at last year's congress,
uurtamo [8k?\]: m5 interesting alternative to l4.  anyone care to explain/comment?
ketchup [5k\]: is o7 aji keshi?
EagleHelm [11k\]: f5 is alive
lustcautio [7d?\]: but no more I guess
Over9k [5k\]: playing well...
Violet [2d\]: e4 d4 d3 d2
]
;B[nj]C[Hoole3 [9k\]: lust you were in this?
Violet [2d\]: then if c3 e1 live
lustcautio [7d?\]: last year
Hoole3 [9k\]: how come your not playing now?
Violet [2d\]: if c2 c3 ko
USGO2 [-\]: Feng :40, Zhongxia :59
lustcautio [7d?\]: too far
]
;W[oj]C[lustcautio [7d?\]: I am not as dedicated
lustcautio [7d?\]: or my wife is not as supportive
Hoole3 [9k\]: wow thats still cool
Hoole3 [9k\]: who is winning now?
Nagual [2k\]: wife dominated, so sad
Zvi [6k\]: kgs hold some good players :p
uurtamo [8k?\]: it's not your wife.
HotMale [4k\]: so how old r these ppl?
lustcautio [7d?\]: I am 40+
enerG [7k\]: do you have to be dan level to play there?
lustcautio [7d?\]: but zhongxia is just 14 I think?
EagleHelm [11k\]: feng yun is 41
wuwei [5k\]: understandable, go is widow-maker
uurtamo [8k?\]: everyone can play at the us open!
Gay [4d\]: even 8k?
HotMale [4k\]: what abt feng n zhao? how old r they?
lustcautio [7d?\]: even 30k
uurtamo [8k?\]: well, at the congress, not the open.
Gaxx [3k\]: isn't there an entry fee?
]
;B[dp]C[Zvi [6k\]: LOL widow maker? people playing go actually die more ?
EagleHelm [11k\]: ack!
Gay [4d\]: wow
Hoole3 [9k\]: wow 14!!
NoKnott [-\]: Please keep comments on the game, the players and the tournament
Sigilus [19k\]: Now I really wish I had the ability to go to congress
Firzen [3d\]: hehe
Hoole3 [9k\]: uhoh admin
Firzen [3d\]: b wants f5 eye in sente ^^
Zvi [6k\]: made an eye in sente ??
Hoole3 [9k\]: sorry mister admin
zedea [4d\]: ability to go to congress?
HotMale [4k\]: oh ic
XY0908 [-\]: I like the D4 move a lot.
Mushroomzz [1k?\]: usgo2, how old is black?
tofutofu [1k\]: D4 is nice
Zvi [6k\]: black lived in the center??
Confuse24 [3k\]: is she playing rzhao
EagleHelm [11k\]: yes
USGO2 [-\]: mid-teens, looks like
Confuse24 [3k\]: oh
Zvi [6k\]: black is now alive right ?
EagleHelm [11k\]: s7 
XY0908 [-\]: so he can play F5 as a sente move.
Confuse24 [3k\]: wears glasses right
USGO2 [-\]: yes.
Confuse24 [3k\]: fan
Zvi [6k\]: s7 is small eagle
zedea [4d\]: is 9p losing?
enerG [7k\]: zhao zhongxia is only 14?
joelw [12k\]: c2?
Confuse24 [3k\]: yep its rzhao
Confuse24 [3k\]: yea hes 14
fairgo1 [10k\]: e4?
Gay [4d\]: if he is 14 he will be big deal later
Hagalaz [4k\]: ohhh it's ricky?
enerG [7k\]: wow
Confuse24 [3k\]: i went to camp with him
Hagalaz [4k\]: ricky's playing feng yun?
Confuse24 [3k\]: yea its ricky
Hagalaz [4k\]: that's amazing
t0Strong4u [-\]: haha
Hoole3 [9k\]: wow
Hagalaz [4k\]: didn't recognize his name haha
]
;W[ep]C[t0Strong4u [-\]: teacher playing student
]
;B[fo]C[t0Strong4u [-\]: haha
]
;W[eo]C[Hoole3 [9k\]: you know these people personally?
YangX [4d\]: yeah
Confuse24 [3k\]: sum
t0Strong4u [-\]: i do cough yang
Confuse24 [3k\]: some
Hagalaz [4k\]: from go camp
Hagalaz [4k\]: feng yun was the teacher
Zvi [6k\]: let me get this
YangX [4d\]: teacher and friend who i play constantly in almostall the tourneys im in
Hoole3 [9k\]: cool when is he next go camp?
Zvi [6k\]: black just lived right ?
Hagalaz [4k\]: and ricky zhao was also there
Hagalaz [4k\]: next summer.. ti's gonna be in dc
Confuse24 [3k\]: i played him even a few times
Hagalaz [4k\]: just like the go congress
t0Strong4u [-\]: ricky blinks a lot
t0Strong4u [-\]: when he plays lol
YangX [4d\]: XD
Hagalaz [4k\]: hahahha he does
ketchup [5k\]: next congress is in DC?
]
;B[jl]C[joelw [12k\]: b not alive yet, but close
Hagalaz [4k\]: yeah
joelw [12k\]: now he's pretty much alive
ketchup [5k\]: wo0
]
;W[or]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: thats alive
Zvi [6k\]: n2 ?
Firzen [3d\]: lower side b is dead
Nagual [2k\]: why p2?
Zvi [6k\]: to cut off black
Confuse24 [3k\]: i thought he lost with 2 stones
Zvi [6k\]: i think
Violence [?\]: kill nih
Violence [?\]: big^
Nagual [2k\]: kill what?
zedea [4d\]: haha i thought white m2
zedea [4d\]: im so weak
joelw [12k\]: making l3 group weaker
Gay [4d\]: 4d is really weak -.-
Firzen [3d\]: l3 is dead now ^^
]
;B[qh]C[proxima [7k\]: if it were b's move, how best to connect l3 to q3?
zedea [4d\]: tenuki
Violence [?\]: : /
Nagual [2k\]: n2 doesnt lives?
Zvi [6k\]: don't think you can prox
Violence [?\]: it's over, it seems
Over9k [5k\]: what dates are the masters tournaments
EagleHelm [11k\]: look at usgo1's info
zedea [4d\]: white only got bottom
NoKnott [-\]: Over9k, see profile of USGo1 for dates ant times
proxima [7k\]: well, threaten connect to get life?
Rakeliem [1k\]: b is ahead right?
krakengo [1k\]: not good
Nagual [2k\]: after b n2 how w kills?
krakengo [1k\]: greedy
Zvi [6k\]: i don't see a way prox , but i'm weak :p
]
;W[nd]C[Over9k [5k\]: thanks
Zvi [6k\]: wait, before p2, or after ?
t0Strong4u [-\]: b seems to be ahead right now
proxima [7k\]: before.
Nagual [2k\]: now
Zvi [6k\]: oh
Zvi [6k\]: hmm
Over9k [5k\]: probe time
Gay [4d\]: i didnt see this reduce
krakengo [1k\]: illusion
zedea [4d\]: 9p losing to 14 yr old?
t0Strong4u [-\]: her student actually
krakengo [1k\]: w is ahead...
proxima [7k\]: I was thinking n2, but maybe something else would work better
Violence [?\]: Counting... I think white's ahead
Gay [4d\]: maybe w letting b win?
Gay [4d\]: is he is stundent of her
tofutofu [1k\]: white has already won this game
mimi [5d\]: w  is alot thicker than b'
Nagual [2k\]: 9p joking with b before real massacre starts!!!
t0Strong4u [-\]: lol...with money on the line? i doubt it
Zvi [6k\]: prox, i think n2 works. but i'm weak :p
webby913 [14k\]: b is too fragment, 7 groups
krakengo [1k\]: you don't teach by letting win... crush !! ;-)
Over9k [5k\]: reminds me of that famous game
uurtamo [8k?\]: not crush, beat by a very small amount.
Over9k [5k\]: snowwhite and the 7 dwarves
tofutofu [1k\]: having the sacrifice the h2 stones in order to live in the center -- very painful
Gaxx [3k\]: What is the first place prize for this tourny?
Zvi [6k\]: 10k i think
Firzen [3d\]: I think w is in the better position as w is stable everywhere
EagleHelm [11k\]: something near 6k
Zvi [6k\]: you get a 10k player to serve you
USGO2 [-\]: Welcome to the 2008 North American Ing Masters (NAIM) Tournament! Thirty-two top players from North American are competing in the 5-round tournament for $10,000 in prizes. The top boards are being broadcast live by the American Go E-Journal; go news from around the world, free every week via email; sign up at www.usgo.org.  Time limits are 90 minutes basic time, 5 periods of 1 minute byo yomi
YangX [4d\]: but thats totla in prizes right?
EagleHelm [11k\]: yep
zedea [4d\]: but black got 4 corners
threeoone [5k\]: still b is territorially ahead
Gaxx [3k\]: I know that there are 10k in prizes, but It doesn't say how they are divided up
EagleHelm [11k\]: 6k is first i believe
YangX [4d\]: ya
Zvi [6k\]: someone get's me? :(
USGO2 [-\]: I do not know.
YangX [4d\]: 6000??
YangX [4d\]: o
EagleHelm [11k\]: yep
krakengo [1k\]: 2 tiny, 1 open and 1 under leaning attack
krakengo [1k\]: yeash great
zedea [4d\]: 4 corners = win
krakengo [1k\]: for w...
Gaxx [3k\]: It would be strange to win $6,000 as a 14 year old >_>
teamochi [9k\]: not always zedeA
EagleHelm [11k\]:  but you have to pay to participate in this tournament
t0Strong4u [-\]: i have never seen this attachment...is this common???
Nagual [2k\]: 90 minutes to much time, i can play 10 games in 90 minutes and drink several drinks
Zvi [6k\]: LOL
Hagalaz [4k\]: drunkengo?
RyuuGan [2k\]: USGO10: game 10 ended. White resigns
Confuse24 [3k\]: did u say that and ur 4d in this situation ur right
Nimwei [22k?\]: are they still playing?
]
;B[ne]C[Sigilus [19k\]: this attachment seems weak for w
tofutofu [1k\]: O16 seems a bit too forced though
Hagalaz [4k\]: i wonder if ricky has his fan
krakengo [1k\]: i am serious
lustcautio [7d?\]: I just can't believe how this is possible
Hagalaz [4k\]: or his juggling balls ^^
EagleHelm [11k\]: ryuu don't be stupid
]
;W[oc]C[t0Strong4u [-\]: i will laugh if b dies
krakengo [1k\]: first degree... what is so surprising ?
lustcautio [7d?\]: takes such an effort for w to beat b
Confuse24 [3k\]: right the one he intimidates people nwith
chayitui [5d\]: how do you replay this game?
Hagalaz [4k\]: USGO, does ricky have a fan?
]
;B[md]
;W[nc]C[YangX [4d\]: probably
proxima [7k\]: Options -> View Offline
Confuse24 [3k\]: yea
YangX [4d\]: lol, w/ pro signatures on them too
Gaxx [3k\]: ... does this actually live, or does this require ko or something?
t0Strong4u [-\]: lol
chayitui [5d\]: thx proxima
Confuse24 [3k\]: it lives
Nagual [2k\]: USGO, how is thw weather?
YangX [4d\]: he'lll ask 4 their signatures again like last yr
YangX [4d\]: XD
Zvi [6k\]: can black efford letting it live small ?
EagleHelm [11k\]: i think it lives
t0Strong4u [-\]: oh geez
krakengo [1k\]: how to kill ?
threeoone [5k\]: hmm ??
Violet [2d\]: W is leading  a lot now
]
;B[pc]C[joelw [12k\]: can't kill
]
;W[oe]C[Confuse24 [3k\]: well
]
;B[pd]C[Nagual [2k\]: temuki
threeoone [5k\]: w is pretty alive
Zvi [6k\]: can't is a tough word. won't, ...
Firzen [3d\]: h13 group weak
Confuse24 [3k\]: t1 is looking like a good play
fairgo1 [10k\]: how much time is remaining for both players?
Machiaveli [5k?\]: w wants the large centre B group
TheCATS [2d\]: t1 amateurish
Zvi [6k\]: any chance to kill n12 later on ?
EagleHelm [11k\]: t1 still sucks
Zvi [6k\]: t1 is amazing
TheCATS [2d\]: ly bad
]
;W[me]C[kyuboy [9k\]: t1?
]
;B[nf]C[XY0908 [-\]: please no more t1 jokes...
Violet [2d\]: \\n12 alive
kyuboy [9k\]: ??
Hagalaz [4k\]: T4 is true strength: b9 bomber
Zvi [6k\]: aww
uurtamo [8k?\]: UL black group killable, right?
kyuboy [9k\]: ladder
kyuboy [9k\]: :D
Zvi [6k\]: did you read it hagals? or are you guessing you get a b2 ?
]
;W[ld]
;B[mf]C[Over9k [5k\]: there's already a b2bomber
Hagalaz [4k\]: e2 strong too
uurtamo [8k?\]: but all other large black groups alive without any problems.
]
;W[le]
;B[lf]
;W[kd]C[Zvi [6k\]: d2 ?
Gay [4d\]: ok w wins 
Zvi [6k\]: oh
EagleHelm [11k\]: oh dang
Zvi [6k\]: h2 dead :/
Over9k [5k\]: white's just abusing black now...
EagleHelm [11k\]: white is deadly
joelw [12k\]: no, if w comes in on left, b has h18, not rly killable
EagleHelm [11k\]: go FENG!
Violet [2d\]: if B h2 alive
Violet [2d\]: then got chance
Zvi [6k\]: really? can live ?
Firzen [3d\]: but it'sdead
EagleHelm [11k\]: n2
yoyoma [1d\]: BBW aren't you there at congress live?
EagleHelm [11k\]: makes life
Nagual [2k\]: i cant understand this gomoku game, what is going on?
Gay [4d\]: lol
threeoone [5k\]: b K16
lustcautio [7d?\]: bravo ZgongXia!
lustcautio [7d?\]: put on a great fight
]
;B[je]C[Gaxx [3k\]: i want to see how h2 is dead O_o
DaoLin [3d?\]: bJ15?
Over9k [5k\]: her teacher would be proud
Nagual [2k\]: i want to see how its dead after b n2
EagleHelm [11k\]: oh h2 is dead
krakengo [1k\]: w has more attacks later... say Q13
EagleHelm [11k\]: if white plays m2
tofutofu [1k\]: B N2, W H1
Zvi [6k\]: m2 is dead. n2 has a chance
Tassadar [6d\]: Black N2, white O2. There's just no way of making it alive
EagleHelm [11k\]: h1 k1
Nagual [2k\]: b still has knocking table for tilt tesuji!!!!
]
;W[ib]C[Zvi [6k\]: lol
]
;B[cd]C[krakengo [1k\]: look at top left now
Zvi [6k\]: tilt tesuji the best :\]
Firzen [3d\]: awesome white move ^^
Gaxx [3k\]: i wonder if that counts as avalanche?
krakengo [1k\]: and,
ketchup [5k\]: tilt tesuji doesnt work for people who can remember their moves..
Zvi [6k\]: it does when played in the right timing
ketchup [5k\]: no..
ketchup [5k\]: it wouldnt..
EagleHelm [11k\]: nope
Violet [2d\]: what is tilt tesuji?
Zvi [6k\]: you just need to tilt the table and their heads at the same time
EagleHelm [11k\]: pro's can play back their games from memory
chs4 [6k\]: games recorded as well isnt it lol
ketchup [5k\]: violet, hitting the board for "tilt"
Gaxx [3k\]: its when you tilt the table so the stones fall off
NoKnott [-\]: Please keep comments to the game, the players, and the tournament. Thanks
Violet [2d\]: oic
Violet [2d\]: lmao
joelw [12k\]: I'm guessing it's when you mess the board up by tilting it
Nagual [2k\]: hidden stones at clothes tesuji also avaiable!!!
uurtamo [8k?\]: tesujis are local, not global.
fluffy [3k\]: lol
krakengo [1k\]: untrue
]
;W[pg]C[Zvi [6k\]: aww, noknott is this is sort of a kgs rule? cause talking abit off the game is fun sometimes :o
krakengo [1k\]: see this one
TheTuss [9k\]: ooooh
aussiemate [7k\]: recent research in Korea has decided that avalanche joseki is not good
DaoLin [3d?\]: "tesuji" = technique
USGO2 [-\]: Welcome to the 2008 North American Ing Masters (NAIM) Tournament! Thirty-two top players from North American are competing in the 5-round tournament for $10,000 in prizes. The top boards are being broadcast live by the American Go E-Journal; go news from around the world, free every week via email; sign up at www.usgo.org.  Time limits are 90 minutes basic time, 5 periods of 1 minute byo yomi
NoKnott [-\]: sort of a KGS rule for big tournament games
EagleHelm [11k\]: white is being mean
fluffy [3k\]: aussie, source?
krakengo [1k\]: who is ahead
Zvi [6k\]: okay :(
EagleHelm [11k\]: white
Nimwei [22k?\]: white
krakengo [1k\]: hasn't b 4 corners ?
TheCATS [2d\]: geen
TheCATS [2d\]: green*
uurtamo [8k?\]: daolin, really?
Zvi [6k\]: 4 corners isn't enough
aussiemate [7k\]: Go review, fluffy
Nimwei [22k?\]: white has side and center
t0Strong4u [-\]: the game is pretty close
fluffy [3k\]: review what
threeoone [5k\]: b should win this
Zvi [6k\]: doesn't have center
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;B[qg]C[USGO1 [-\]: There are quite a few of Ricky's fans that have gathered around the table to watch the game in progress
Over9k [5k\]: j13 may die...
EagleHelm [11k\]: hey big bad wolf would you review?
EagleHelm [11k\]: who is ricky?
fluffy [3k\]: ricky is b
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;W[og]C[uurtamo [8k?\]: how closely are people standing without being impolite?
Zvi [6k\]: why does he call himself zhongxia zhao if his name is ricky? :O
fluffy [3k\]: legal name vs functional name
joelw [12k\]: ricky is prob nickname
Over9k [5k\]: asian names intimidateopponents
Zvi [6k\]: i see
uurtamo [8k?\]: so that non-chinese people can refer to him.
uurtamo [8k?\]: chinese?
Over9k [5k\]: yea
Zvi [6k\]: well he's chinese. feng has no chance
Over9k [5k\]: feng is also a chiense name
Zvi [6k\]: oh
Over9k [5k\]: lol
EagleHelm [11k\]: i wonder how you pronounce Zhongxia Zhao?
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;B[jc]C[Nimwei [22k?\]: lol
Zvi [6k\]: she's chinese. he has no chance
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;W[kb]C[yuksek [6k\]: sorry cant w kill b in the center
Over9k [5k\]: she's his teacher...
Zvi [6k\]: it's all about where you come from. not about how much you learn or practice
Over9k [5k\]: pronounciation depends on the accents/ words
Zvi [6k\]: all koreans know that
uurtamo [8k?\]: yuksek -- where do you imagine w would take away the second eye, or do you mean the g11 group?
ketchup [5k\]: i dont see how black can die in middle
esrig [7k\]: b has p14 and L13
Zvi [6k\]: i've been kicked? :S
Zvi [6k\]: what for? :(
NoKnott [-\]: Please keep comments to game, tournament and the players, thanks.
krakengo [1k\]: P13 hurts eh
EagleHelm [11k\]: so what is the score?
Zvi [6k\]: i'll take that to me to me :o
Gaxx [3k\]: "score"?
Over9k [5k\]: over 9000....
krakengo [1k\]: K17 not helping much
EagleHelm [11k\]: vague count?
DaoLin [3d?\]: score in in probabilities ?
t0Strong4u [-\]: b looks better going into yose
EagleHelm [11k\]: lol over!
Over9k [5k\]: but white is pro
Over9k [5k\]: so white has better yose
USGO2 [-\]: Feng Yun has left the room
Zvi [6k\]: isn't p14 big ?
chayitui [5d\]: game over soon, it looks like
Zvi [6k\]: or n2 ?
vavoysh [7k\]: why is komi just 8? why not 8.5?
Zvi [6k\]: nz rules
Over9k [5k\]: b/c it's like chinese rules
Tayfax [8k\]: a player left?
weak888 [1k\]: b can resign now
aussiemate [7k\]: are pros allowed in this tournament?
Pasukaru [-\]: black is cut
Nimwei [22k?\]: seems like black already did?
Over9k [5k\]: which is 7.5 but white wins jigo so they just made it 8 for simplicity
Zvi [6k\]: white is a pro
DaoLin [3d?\]: is there an eye around L14 or not? whats dammage to right, bR13 etc. 
vavoysh [7k\]: feng yun is a pro
uurtamo [8k?\]: weak888: why?
USGO2 [-\]: Ing Rules, same as New Zealand; KGS doesn't have ING as an option
Zvi [6k\]: oh, okay
Violet [2d\]: japanese rule is still the best
krakengo [1k\]: talking of yose ? mmmh
acellist1 [5k\]: can there be a draw with even komi?
Zvi [6k\]: what is ing ?
joelw [12k\]: ing
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;B[nh]C[Violet [2d\]: ing is ING
EagleHelm [11k\]: yes cellist
Over9k [5k\]: they basically have plates of stones and the take turns playing them
EagleHelm [11k\]: draws are possible
Zvi [6k\]: great violet. now it makes sense
Over9k [5k\]: and at the end they fill up all territory
Zvi [6k\]: :(
EagleHelm [11k\]: that results in a rematch
Zvi [6k\]: what is ing rules ?
Over9k [5k\]: one wiht less stones wins
NoKnott [-\]: Mr. Ing was a wealthy industrialist who used his money to sponsor what he considered to be improvements in Go
Violet [2d\]: lol
aussiemate [7k\]: question shou;d be "Who is (or was) Ing
USGO1 [-\]: no Eagle
Violet [2d\]: i also dunnoe actually
USGO2 [-\]: Actually, I don't think you can have a draw with Ing rules
USGO1 [-\]: only in special cases
t0Strong4u [-\]: lol
appleseeds [4k?\]: i think w wins jigo
Over9k [5k\]: triple ko?
Zvi [6k\]: oh, so it's nz rules only named after a guy ?
EagleHelm [11k\]: sorta
USGO2 [-\]: Both players are away from the table now.
Machiaveli [5k?\]: Ing Chang Ki donated millions to promote goe
EagleHelm [11k\]: why are nz rules called nz rules?
Zvi [6k\]: where did they go to ?
atma [1k\]: ing ko rules are different than nz ko rules
USGO2 [-\]: Feng :30, Zhongxia :43
uurtamo [8k?\]: both people walk away so one person's clock just runs?
USGO2 [-\]: they are back
Rakeliem [1k\]: n11
Zvi [6k\]: why did they go ?
EagleHelm [11k\]: to stretch
Violet [2d\]: take some drink maybe
aussiemate [7k\]: comfort break
joelw [12k\]: to get to the other side
USGO2 [-\]: I see actions... I don't read minds
EagleHelm [11k\]: its been a long game
Firzen [3d\]: I like this b move
Zvi [6k\]: lol
Firzen [3d\]: though it doesn't work ^^
Zvi [6k\]: okay sorry
DnFBlitz [1d\]: uurtamo, yes.  typically, one player thinks, then the other may do something, then a move is played
EagleHelm [11k\]: i'm not sure if this black move doesn't work
uurtamo [8k?\]: what's with all of the standing up and walking around?
Firzen [3d\]: in the black linke that cuts off p13 stones
Over9k [5k\]: if i ever went I would bring my gameboy pocket
EagleHelm [11k\]: circulate the blood
Firzen [3d\]: w can destroy the eye at l7
joelw [12k\]: o11=fun
esrig [7k\]: ah, how Firzen?
DnFBlitz [1d\]: sitting all the time is for transatlantic flights, not go tournaments
EagleHelm [11k\]: how firzen?
Firzen [3d\]: sit and watch ^^
USGO2 [-\]: 5 boards are done.  The stronger player won in all cases
fairgo1 [10k\]: O_O
Over9k [5k\]: m7 destroies?
Over9k [5k\]: destroys
uurtamo [8k?\]: but don't you want to spend your playing time reading the board?
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;W[kg]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: they can read in their heads
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;B[kf]
;W[ng]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: they are masters
Over9k [5k\]: what a concept
Rakeliem [1k\]: nice
rosepark22 [3k\]: what is the ~ sign after your rank such as [3\]~
DaoLin [3d?\]: if liberty N10 would be gone, is then L8 area still eye (and if also N9 gone)?
souka [2d\]: go is not only a read hability
Tower [3d\]: it means you play stronger players more than 2/3 of the time
Over9k [5k\]: you don't play weaker players
fluffy [3k\]: it means you're a jerk
TheCATS [2d\]: L13 so nice
Over9k [5k\]: lol
NoKnott [-\]: rosepark, please ask non-tournament questions elsewhere
rosepark22 [3k\]: I like your answer fluffy
TanGeng [1k?\]: ~?
Over9k [5k\]: h14 sente for black?
TanGeng [1k?\]: is that what it means
fluffy [3k\]: :)
EagleHelm [11k\]: ok back on topic time now
EagleHelm [11k\]: why isn't black resigning?
Zvi [6k\]: i think h14 e12, so it's bad.
Zvi [6k\]: maybe i'm wrong
TheCATS [2d\]: fighting spirit
joelw [12k\]: i agree w/that
Virtually [5k\]: why L13 then abandon?
fairgo1 [10k\]: what's jigo?
Blockdude [3k\]: black had a chance before this
NoKnott [-\]: jigo = tie game on the board
fairgo1 [10k\]: ok
EagleHelm [11k\]: e13 is juge now!
fairgo1 [10k\]: why do they call it jigo?
Over9k [5k\]: jigo=SE
Zvi [6k\]: lol
NoKnott [-\]: SE wpm
lijinz [3k\]: omg
fairgo1 [10k\]: SE?
Gaxx [3k\]: because we steal Japanese terms for go for some reason.
webby913 [14k\]: w real purpose is to capture r12 two stones
uurtamo [8k?\]: fairgo1, for the same reason that they call it go.
NoKnott [-\]: SE won't work well with New Zealand/ Ing rules
aussiemate [7k\]: SEwhich is infallible) says it is jigo now
lijinz [3k\]: i don't like saying jigo jigo jigo
USGO2 [-\]: Feng :27, Zhongxia :40
uurtamo [8k?\]: or igo.
EagleHelm [11k\]: go go igo!
Zvi [6k\]: what are those numbers?
Confuse24 [3k\]: whats jigo
Tower [3d\]: time left
EagleHelm [11k\]: time
Zvi [6k\]: estiamted score ?
Tower [3d\]: minutes
Over9k [5k\]: lol lijinz
Zvi [6k\]: oh
Zvi [6k\]: seemed wierd really
Over9k [5k\]: if you were chinese that would be so wrong
Tower [3d\]: why?
Suicide [8k\]: jigo is a draw
Over9k [5k\]: not getting myself banned
Capsule [3d\]: oh...i beat zhongxia zhao in an even game yesterday...
Capsule [3d\]: ...on a 9x9 board...
Over9k [5k\]: lol
EagleHelm [11k\]: yeah
Suicide [8k\]: ...with 9 handi...
EagleHelm [11k\]: i believe you
uurtamo [8k?\]: lol
Zvi [6k\]: lol
EagleHelm [11k\]: lol
Capsule [3d\]: :(
Suicide [8k\]: jk ;-P
Gay [4d\]: i beat Feng yun in even game
lustcautio [7d?\]: chess?
DaoLin [3d?\]: if bJ15 now, than he should be able to live &  keep K17 &  the right side; then it becomes a normal dra´wn out game, W must nibble for points
Zvi [6k\]: in each of the games me and feng played, i won
DaoLin [3d?\]: GAY, really?
Gay [4d\]: in Go
Gay [4d\]: yes
Transcript [7k\]: none
Over9k [5k\]: was it blitz?
fluffy [3k\]: how much did you pay
DaoLin [3d?\]: in a pub?
Over9k [5k\]: or online
DaoLin [3d?\]: teaching?
Gay [4d\]: no 
DaoLin [3d?\]: whow,
Zvi [6k\]: don't trust him :|
DaoLin [3d?\]: I took 4 stones
Gay [4d\]: it was real game
Suicide [8k\]: it was a dream ^_^
EagleHelm [11k\]: he's being sarcastic
Suicide [8k\]: aww, nvm...
Mushroomzz [1k?\]: he's so full of c***
Mushroomzz [1k?\]: :D
ssgross [3k\]: simul? :)
DaoLin [3d?\]: 4 stones 1 out of ten
Zvi [6k\]: she's a 9p. he can't beat her
Over9k [5k\]: is Go another name for DDR?
Over9k [5k\]: gay?
Zvi [6k\]: lol ddr
EagleHelm [11k\]: he's making fun of capsule
DaoLin [3d?\]: and 1 5H stone was won, which perhaps I really won
gwozdziarz [4k\]: wow fengyun better win or it'll be embarrassing
Suicide [8k\]: Over9k...depends on where you put the board
flatulator [9k\]: do you mean you won the game, or you beat her physically with the goban?
joelw [12k\]: e12
Zvi [6k\]: she is chinese, none of us can beat her in ddr
fluffy [3k\]: hahaha
Aliens243 [9k?\]: ddr?
Zvi [6k\]: LOL
DaoLin [3d?\]: Gay, so you won or not?
krakengo [1k\]: did  b resign yet ?
Zvi [6k\]: dance dance revolution
fluffy [3k\]: good one flatulator
Over9k [5k\]: I'm chinese...
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;B[of]
;W[pf]
;B[pe]C[krakengo [1k\]: haha
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;W[qf]C[krakengo [1k\]: plonk
krakengo [1k\]: the nobi
Over9k [5k\]: epic fail
EagleHelm [11k\]: black needs the connection
TheCATS [2d\]: too bad
TheCATS [2d\]: !!!
EagleHelm [11k\]: or death
USGO2 [-\]: that last was played with definitiveness
Zvi [6k\]: i don't guess the cut works ?
USGO2 [-\]: if that's a word
krakengo [1k\]: sure
RunningFox [2d\]: b had no choice
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;B[oi]
;W[mj]C[krakengo [1k\]: who is ahead ?
]
;B[pj]C[Suicide [8k\]: lol, the commentator is doubting the verit of his own choice of words
Gay [4d\]: White is ahead
Firzen [3d\]: this is gonna hurt ^^
Zvi [6k\]: it's okay to make up words while comenntating usgo
Suicide [8k\]: *verity
krakengo [1k\]: hasn't b 4 corners...
Mike [9k\]: veracity?
Mike [9k\]: haha
Rakeliem [1k\]: wow
Rakeliem [1k\]: might live
NoKnott [-\]: conviction
Over9k [5k\]: he means viscosity
RunningFox [2d\]: will c...
Suicide [8k\]: I never claimed to know what I was talking about %-P
Rakeliem [1k\]: viscosity is surface tension
joelw [12k\]: he means verily
flatulator [9k\]: vicarity?
EagleHelm [11k\]: rakeliem you are wrong!
Mike [9k\]: veracitousness i think is the correct phrase
Rakeliem [1k\]: yea probably
Tower [3d\]: veracity was correct
Zvi [6k\]: surface tension? is that the correct definition ? :o
Firzen [3d\]: m7 n7 n6 l7 n8 m8 k9 
craig [4k\]: no
Tower [3d\]: o11 seems simple enough
TheCATS [2d\]: or, considering the state of kgs chat, vacuousness might be more appropriate
craig [4k\]: resistance to  flow
Suicide [8k\]: verity was correct
EagleHelm [11k\]: surface tension and viscosity are two different things
Aliens243 [9k?\]: viscosity is different than  surface tension
Zvi [6k\]: yeah, resistance to flow seems more right
acellist1 [5k\]: veritas
Zvi [6k\]: any chance to kill r8?
Firzen [3d\]: w can kill with the ponnuki
EagleHelm [11k\]: he means the last play was definitely played
EagleHelm [11k\]: lol
fluffy [3k\]: are you sure it was played?
Zvi [6k\]: we know eagle
Blockdude [3k\]: viscosity is ability to flow
Zvi [6k\]: LOL
Cail [4k\]: so is q10 worthwhile?
Zvi [6k\]: dissability to flow i think
krakengo [1k\]: w jauging kill
Blockdude [3k\]: yeah
Blockdude [3k\]: forgot
Zvi [6k\]: ^^
Aliens243 [9k?\]: the more viscous = the less flow
fluffy [3k\]: kgs has a lot of funglish
DaoLin [3d?\]: if wS15 is double-sente to corner AND prevents the right side to live  .....then W connects now at P9
Zvi [6k\]: oh, i think the best one is "Fluid Friction"
krakengo [1k\]: is this a physics chan ?
Suicide [8k\]: 'fliction
TanGeng [1k?\]: I like p9 at first glance
Firzen [3d\]: actually
acellist1 [5k\]: b's play is viscous compared with w's
Tower [3d\]: s15 doesn't appear super sente on the corner
Zvi [6k\]: lol
Firzen [3d\]: any w move that protects there makes it possible to destroy l8 eye
Tower [3d\]: its big sure, but black has options
Zvi [6k\]: q10 move has a great flow, no viscosity there
Abeto [2k\]: but if w s15 b n 13 isnt?
krakengo [1k\]: don't give ponnuki
krakengo [1k\]: stop the S15 now
esrig [7k\]: Firzen, there's still an eye at L8 because b can fill at m7
EagleHelm [11k\]: if i were black r 9 would be the next play
joelw [12k\]: p9 or o11?
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;W[ok]C[krakengo [1k\]: solid way
Zvi [6k\]: cut threat ?
Firzen [3d\]: ah what was I thinking? :D
lustcautio [7d?\]: r9
EagleHelm [11k\]: r9 
TanGeng [1k?\]: woo!
esrig [7k\]: :)
Suicide [8k\]: resign is always gote
RunningFox [2d\]: c if b can make 2 grp alive
Tower [3d\]: resign is sente
Zvi [6k\]: lol
EagleHelm [11k\]: resignation is ultimate sente
acellist1 [5k\]: forces player to stand
Suicide [8k\]: they need to respond?
lustcautio [7d?\]: not at cngfress
Zvi [6k\]: resignation is gote
EagleHelm [11k\]: your opponents needs to respond
TheTuss [9k\]: is both 
lustcautio [7d?\]: loser has to sign
Zvi [6k\]: doesn't have to
USGO2 [-\]: 9 boards have finished, including board 1.  All won by stronger player.
TheTuss [9k\]: and none
lustcautio [7d?\]: at the bulletin
Tower [3d\]: loser has to sign at the bulletin?
Tower [3d\]: that's pretty harsh
EagleHelm [11k\]: thank you usgo
zedea [4d\]: who is favorite for this tournament?
lustcautio [7d?\]: that was last year
Suicide [8k\]: usgo, the stronger player, or w?
Tower [3d\]: stronger player
Suicide [8k\]: ok
Tower [3d\]: also, is jie li at this congress ?
Hagios [4k\]: Suicide, Mingjiu was black and he won.
Suicide [8k\]: ah, right
Suicide [8k\]: forgot
patrickb [-\]: I thought the stonger player won *by definition* :)
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;B[mg]C[Tower [3d\]: lol?
Abeto [2k\]: yeah n 13
Tower [3d\]: P12 ?
Zvi [6k\]: lol pat
azaman [2k\]: uh q11?
Suicide [8k\]: p12
teamochi [9k\]: lol
lustcautio [7d?\]: b wants S14
Zvi [6k\]: :O
Zvi [6k\]: lol
Abeto [2k\]: if w p12 b s14
EagleHelm [11k\]: black wants to kill
Hoole3 [9k\]: wow a guy takes a nap and the game is just about over
Suicide [8k\]: s14, s15
EagleHelm [11k\]: needs to kill
Tower [3d\]: oh i guess it does remove enough liberties to connect
Hoole3 [9k\]: has b won it?
zflyhorse [2k\]: p12?
Tower [3d\]: i wonder if feng yun lost if the other pros would make fun of her when they all get together
Zvi [6k\]: if black gets this one he might just win
EagleHelm [11k\]: p12 big answer
Tower [3d\]: nothing will die here ?
azaman [2k\]: w Q11 bq12 w p12 to connect the w stones..
Zvi [6k\]: lol
TheTuss [9k\]: get what
Abeto [2k\]: only p12 for w
lustcautio [7d?\]: I doubt
themyr0n [3k\]: p12 is easy answer
lustcautio [7d?\]: you will lucky if you find them taking to each other
lustcautio [7d?\]: tlaking
lustcautio [7d?\]: talking
zedea [4d\]: i lost to 1k and people made fun of me
EagleHelm [11k\]: that sounds bad lust
Suicide [8k\]: hm, yeah, b connects
Tower [3d\]: if i were them i'd get drunk at the bar together and make fun of the amas :P
Zvi [6k\]: could this be a move for more time ?
Rakeliem [1k\]: s14?
Suicide [8k\]: congrats zhao...
lustcautio [7d?\]: but plain truth
TheTuss [9k\]: ofr more time?
NoKnott [-\]: Please keep comments to the game, the players, and the tournament
joelw [12k\]: doesn't q11 work?
Zvi [6k\]: well, now it's her turn to spend time thinking
Aliens243 [9k?\]: not in byo yomi yet
Zvi [6k\]: and black has more time to think about moves on the right
EagleHelm [11k\]: q11 is ladder
Zvi [6k\]: yes but her clock is ticking
Hagalaz [4k\]: don't work
RunningFox [2d\]: w has to kill
zedea [4d\]: p12 seems the only move
Tower [3d\]: yeah have to let black connect
Tower [3d\]: i guess
EagleHelm [11k\]: the ladder works
EagleHelm [11k\]: read it right
Tower [3d\]: what ladder ?
Suicide [8k\]: q11 q12 p12 anyway
weak888 [1k\]: s-14?
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;W[oh]
;B[rf]C[Tower [3d\]: s14 seems like overplay for white
azaman [2k\]: as others pointed out p12 works right away... probably the question is how to not bother with it
Tower [3d\]: now black connects
Abeto [2k\]: q 11 bad for w i think
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;W[ni]C[Tower [3d\]: then we continue
]
;B[re]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: god move by black
RunningFox [2d\]: over?
EagleHelm [11k\]: *good
Suicide [8k\]: good, don't know about god xD
Zvi [6k\]: e12 getting big
Tower [3d\]: is black leading?  i refuse to count my own games let alone someone elses
fluffy [3k\]: lol
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;W[oq]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: e12 is nada
]
;B[qs]C[Tower [3d\]: white has a decent sized bottom
fatihsulak [4d\]: s12 instead of s15 might be better
zflyhorse [2k\]: b15?
Suicide [8k\]: Tower, do you have the client?
craig [4k\]: not leading
wuwei [5k\]: yose it is, and w has sente
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;W[mn]C[Capsule [3d\]: b is rzhao on kgs
Tower [3d\]: yeah but this isn't japanese rules is it?  so se is broken ?
Zvi [6k\]: e12 nada?? why nada ?
Tower [3d\]: e12 is pretty big soon
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;B[mm]C[Zvi [6k\]: se is always broken
EagleHelm [11k\]: l13 
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;W[ml]C[Suicide [8k\]: well, it's either count, or trust in SE ^_^
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;B[ll]
;W[nm]
;B[lm]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: breaks e12
acellist1 [5k\]: what is rzhao ranked?
HamatoYosh [-\]: or trust the 10k
Capsule [3d\]: 5d
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;W[rj]C[Capsule [3d\]: on kgs
Blockdude [3k\]: 5d kgs
Suicide [8k\]: there is that
acellist1 [5k\]: oh wow
acellist1 [5k\]: playing great then i guess
Tower [3d\]: eagle, E12 captures D12
Tower [3d\]: its just points
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;B[os]
;W[nr]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: i know
Tower [3d\]: there is no "breaking" it then
fluffy [3k\]: wow so feng yun will be 10,000 richer
Over9k [5k\]: yay pro yose time
Abeto [2k\]: m1?
RunningFox [2d\]: why p1?
Tower [3d\]: why will feng yun be 10k richer ?
Tower [3d\]: p1 sente ?
fluffy [3k\]: most likely win the tournament
Blockdude [3k\]: winner gets10k
zedea [4d\]: white leading by 17?
Nimwei [22k?\]: thats what you get for winning the tournament
EagleHelm [11k\]: no blockdude!
zedea [4d\]: how accurate is that?
krakengo [1k\]: what is a kyu
Tower [3d\]: feng yun is a 9p, but not necessarily the strongest
]
;B[kc]
;W[lc]C[aussiemate [7k\]: 10k what?
RunningFox [2d\]: b too conservative
aussiemate [7k\]: yen?
Abeto [2k\]: m1 it's possible?
]
;B[jd]C[Hoole3 [9k\]: what?
]
;W[jb]C[fluffy [3k\]: i would throw a party for the students if i were her
EagleHelm [11k\]: the total of all the prizes is 10000 dollars
krakengo [1k\]: 10 kyu
Over9k [5k\]: mingjiu won last year
]
;B[ns]
;W[ms]
;B[ps]C[gobutton: shouldn't 9p kick 6d's butt?
]
;W[mr]C[Blockdude [3k\]: yeah
Suicide [8k\]: basic rule: whoever has tengen has the game
Tower [3d\]: b15
Tower [3d\]: area
Tower [3d\]: or Q11
joelw [12k\]: w sorta has it
Zvi [6k\]: he is her student. she might have went soft with him. after all he's 14, he'll cry all night after losing
aussiemate [7k\]: wots tengen?
Suicide [8k\]: wots go?
Capsule [3d\]: tengen is the center point
Zvi [6k\]: tengen in k10
Blockdude [3k\]: lol Zvi
Zvi [6k\]: is*
fluffy [3k\]: Zvi: no
aussiemate [7k\]: o, ok
Over9k [5k\]: tengen is the origin of heaven
RunningFox [2d\]: couldn't b make bottom group ko alive?
Zvi [6k\]: so what fuffy, it's funny :D
GaretJax [6k\]: He's legitimately strong
zedea [4d\]: tengen = the most unique point
Tower [3d\]: not anymore
GaretJax [6k\]: he coudl see something feng yun misses
]
;B[bf]C[craig [4k\]: i thougt so runningfox, but i guess he saw otherwise
Zyphe [10k\]: is it really a 9p vs 6d?  if so what was the handi?
Capsule [3d\]: no handi
Tower [3d\]: no handi, this is the us open
RunningFox [2d\]: \\ok
Capsule [3d\]: ing masters
]
;W[eh]C[GaretJax [6k\]: this is NOT the us open
Tower [3d\]: oh ing masters ?
GaretJax [6k\]: it's Ing
Suicide [8k\]: is AGA chinese + pris/dead?
Hoole3 [9k\]: what is ing masters?
Over9k [5k\]: no
Tower [3d\]: is jie li here ?
fatihsulak [4d\]: d2 
Zvi [6k\]: d2 looks big
]
;B[pb]C[zedea [4d\]: hi fatihsulak
]
;W[cr]C[Gay [4d\]: w trying win for .5
EagleHelm [11k\]: d3 is bigger
]
;B[br]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: ...
Zvi [6k\]: d3 smaller
EagleHelm [11k\]: that was supposed to say c2
RunningFox [2d\]: anyone count? 
Hoole3 [9k\]: whos ahead?
Suicide [8k\]: not for much
Zvi [6k\]: counting is for losers. se say's it all
Capsule [3d\]: http://www.usgo.org/congress/2008/openplayers.html
Suicide [8k\]: lol
Zyphe [10k\]: white is ahead
Violet [2d\]: W +5
Tower [3d\]: se only works with japanese rules
Capsule [3d\]: they made a mistake there.
Violet [2d\]: maybe
Abeto [2k\]: i think w is ahead
gwozdziarz [4k\]: looks to me like w up 15, but me bad counter
Tower [3d\]: its giving you a made up number
Tower [3d\]: when its not japanese
RunningFox [2d\]: hehe, pretty close eh?
Zvi [6k\]: it gives you a mde up number even in japanese tower
Suicide [8k\]: xD
EagleHelm [11k\]: black is ahead by a little bit
Abeto [2k\]: i think is easy for w 
Suicide [8k\]: all numbers are made up, or we wouldn't have them
gwozdziarz [4k\]: i would be happy to do this well against my sensei, if i had one
Abeto [2k\]: just a good yose
Violet [2d\]: n18 works
appleseeds [4k?\]: where, capsule?
Suicide [8k\]: c3?
]
;W[qi]C[Zvi [6k\]: and m18 doesn't ?
RunningFox [2d\]: i think b lost the last opp at bottom
Tower [3d\]: m18 doesn't
zedea [4d\]: s7?
fluffy [3k\]: w about 15 ahead atm
Tower [3d\]: n18 works as in, n18, n17, o18
Violet [2d\]: n18 remove W's terri
Tower [3d\]: or o19
Violet [2d\]: at top
Zvi [6k\]: m18 doesn't, right :(
themyr0n [3k\]: w + 13 by my loose count
USGO2 [-\]: Feng :15, Zhongxia :30
AznKid93 [1d\]: ricky might win by time xD
Abeto [2k\]: but if b n18
craig [4k\]: now d2?
Abeto [2k\]: w o18 isnt??
zedea [4d\]: n18, o18?
joelw [12k\]: q18
Zvi [6k\]: s7 is small due to ko ?
fluffy [3k\]: i guess feng really wants that gucci bag
EagleHelm [11k\]: byo yomi is huge
EagleHelm [11k\]: no time wins 
Mushroomzz [1k?\]: none of u really count, you all just look to Score estimator and say the number by +-2 points
Zvi [6k\]: lol
joelw [12k\]: err
joelw [12k\]: o18
Mushroomzz [1k?\]: "w win by about 15 points"
Capsule [3d\]: appleseeds: jimmy guo's pic is not jimmy guo
Gay [4d\]: yea
Violet [2d\]: o18 small
themyr0n [3k\]: no... i really counted
Mushroomzz [1k?\]: "but im bad counter"
atma [1k\]: score is w+17 +-2
Tower [3d\]: which in this case is silly because its NZ rules and SE is broken
Gay [4d\]: i agree with mushroom
EagleHelm [11k\]: black wins by about 12
Violet [2d\]: but atkes sente
gwozdziarz [4k\]: i counted too
Zvi [6k\]: mushroom. in SE we trust, and after him blindly we follow
cloudy [4d\]: how much is the prize?
Violet [2d\]: 100k
Zvi [6k\]: (messed up grammer makes it sound more religious)
fluffy [3k\]: Mushroomzz is just jealous of our counting skills
RunningFox [2d\]: geez, good counters
cloudy [4d\]: ok
aussiemate [7k\]: B can play s7 
Hagalaz [4k\]: magic mushrooms?
TheTuss [9k\]: .
gwozdziarz [4k\]: what's your count mush? let's bet
Zvi [6k\]: i play counter strike for like 3 years, i should know how to counter
EagleHelm [11k\]: a11 
Zvi [6k\]: oh, not that kind of counte running :/
GaretJax [6k\]: Maybe chunga has an approx count
Over9k [5k\]: geodude has better counter
Peantoo [7k\]: 3 years? what a waste of time
Hoole3 [9k\]: what are u guys talking about?
NoKnott [-\]: Please keep comments to the game, the players and the tournament.  Thanks.
RunningFox [2d\]: anyone count pls, 
Zvi [6k\]: oh, and playing 3 years go is better ?
Zvi [6k\]: sorry no
kitten85 [16k\]: noKnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooott
Zvi [6k\]: nokott :o
flatulator [9k\]: white is miles ahead
TheTuss [9k\]: so.. j2
TheTuss [9k\]: whats up with that
acellist1 [5k\]: s7 soon?
thnguyen24 [4k\]: is the game still on?
EagleHelm [11k\]: a11 is a good move
craig [4k\]: i count w ahead about 20
]
;B[pi]C[Tower [3d\]: i've got black at like 50
RunningFox [2d\]: hehe
thnguyen24 [4k\]: how come the clock doesn't count
setake [10k\]: is all k16 ndead?
Tower [3d\]: oh this is total overplay
GaretJax [6k\]: b is probably reading the rest of the game
Hagalaz [4k\]: wazooo
EagleHelm [11k\]: same here towere
setake [10k\]: oh no nvm
setake [10k\]: oops
Over9k [5k\]: black dies
Machiaveli [5k?\]: S12
NoKnott [-\]: thnugyen, they are using clock at table, not KGS clock
Over9k [5k\]: s12 
fluffy [3k\]: oh wait..with komi white is more like 23 ahead
]
;W[rh]
;B[rg]C[Zvi [6k\]: ouch
USGO2 [-\]: he shook his head at that'
Zvi [6k\]: can use s9 and tesuji ?
]
;W[ph]C[GaretJax [6k\]: b must have done on purpose...
Capsule [3d\]: s9 is fakesuji
RunningFox [2d\]: b refund the right side by 80%
]
;B[sh]C[Hoole3 [9k\]: hey what if b plays p18?
Over9k [5k\]: at least he ends in sente
Tower [3d\]: white could tenuki here
azaman [2k\]: or n18
Confuse24 [3k\]: oh
USGO2 [-\]: Feng almost responded right away, then paused and is thinking
Confuse24 [3k\]: no
Zvi [6k\]: n18 n17 o18 gives p18
EagleHelm [11k\]: n19 is bigger than p18
fluffy [3k\]: how is the weather there
Confuse24 [3k\]: if she connects
Over9k [5k\]: lol
]
;W[ri]
;B[dr]
;W[dq]
;B[cq]C[azaman [2k\]: n18 better than n19 I think
IIamamiIk [4k\]: s9 possible?
]
;W[bg]C[Hoole3 [9k\]: who si the girl?
lifeisgood [-\]: o18
Over9k [5k\]: yun feng?
EagleHelm [11k\]: n18 not good
Tower [3d\]: n18 is fine
Violet [2d\]: n18 gote
Capsule [3d\]: n18 > you
Violet [2d\]: but reap off a big points
EagleHelm [11k\]: thank you violet
Tower [3d\]: P18 seems fine too, just can't O19
Zvi [6k\]: hmm
Tower [3d\]: not ever play is sente, gote isn't bad
Zvi [6k\]: s9 does nothing ?
Tower [3d\]: s9 does nothing
Capsule [3d\]: s9 does something - loses points.
threeoone [4k\]: b missed a lot in yose
]
;B[ce]C[Hoole3 [9k\]: so what hapens after this match is over?
Tower [3d\]: nothing ?
]
;W[rl]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: someone loses
Blockdude [3k\]: they go to Taco Bell
NoKnott [-\]: next round is tomorrow
Hoole3 [9k\]: lol
Tower [3d\]: mhmm taco bell
Over9k [5k\]: they go to disney world
Violet [2d\]: B n18
Violet [2d\]: and win
Tower [3d\]: n18 doesn't win anything
aussiemate [7k\]: Takagawa descgibes gote no sente
Blockdude [3k\]: lol
setake [10k\]: is this no time limit?
EagleHelm [11k\]: disney is too far away
]
;B[mb]C[fluffy [3k\]: lol
flatulator [9k\]: haha
Tower [3d\]: black can't cut
Hoole3 [9k\]: wow
Tower [3d\]: good reduction
NoKnott [-\]: they have time limits, but don't use KGS clocks
Tower [3d\]: but that's it
Violet [2d\]: now B won ^^
Violet [2d\]: congrats
]
;W[mc]
;B[ob]C[Hoole3 [9k\]: no
]
;W[nb]C[Blockdude [3k\]: no he didnt lol
]
;B[na]
;W[lb]
;B[ga]C[zedea [4d\]: score estimate jigo?
GaretJax [6k\]: b will kick himself if q11 lost it
zedea [4d\]: first time i saw that
GaretJax [6k\]: I would have nightmares
gwozdziarz [4k\]: somebody knows why s8 instead of s7 which looks more normal to me?
TanGeng [1k?\]: huh?
Zvi [6k\]: white's yose is extremely stronger then blacks
Blockdude [3k\]: when you add white komi plus endgame white will be up by a good margain
Violet [2d\]: crap
azaman [2k\]: um I count w ahead..
Violet [2d\]: he let W get the chance a gain
Violet [2d\]: should connect
Tower [3d\]: S8 helps S10
Violet [2d\]: if not don't play n18
Tower [3d\]: for end game sente etc
Zvi [6k\]: s8 defends any attempt to play s9
zedea [4d\]: SE messes up bottom
zedea [4d\]: white should win 
TanGeng [1k?\]: ahh black has all four corners
gwozdziarz [4k\]: ok thx
setake [10k\]: loser...
azaman [2k\]: r11 was a lot bigger than it looks at first I think
Blockdude [3k\]: taht doesnt win him anyting
setake [10k\]: 4 corners you lose
]
;W[ha]C[zedea [4d\]: 4 corners usually not enough
Rakeliem [1k\]: ko
]
;B[hb]
;W[bn]C[Tower [3d\]: interesting
]
;B[cn]
;W[gb]C[Tower [3d\]: isn't B6 bad ?
]
;B[gm]
;W[fm]
;B[hb]C[TanGeng [1k?\]: too bad bottom and right are so huge for white
setake [10k\]: looked like it
]
;W[ao]C[Over9k [5k\]: ko for the fate of the universe
]
;B[bp]
;W[gb]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: neutral ko threat
Tower [3d\]: moderate sized ko
Medscrubs [-\]: zedea.. i heard that when u have 4 corners u got a 97% chance of winning.
EagleHelm [11k\]: not good or bad tower
GaretJax [6k\]: r15
Over9k [5k\]: r15 
Hoole3 [9k\]: is this ko even necessary?
EagleHelm [11k\]: yes
Tower [3d\]: fairly sente for white to take
]
;B[qe]C[zedea [4d\]: 70% of the statistics are made on the spot
]
;W[nh]C[Tower [3d\]: no its not necessary, white could have avoided it most likely
Over9k [5k\]: to determine who gets n19 
]
;B[hb]C[joelw [12k\]: this ko is the biggest spot on the board
EagleHelm [11k\]: every k0 is necessary
Zvi [6k\]: no, not every ko
Over9k [5k\]: b7 
Zyphe [10k\]: i like kos at the end game.. speeds it up
Julian [3k\]: j6
EagleHelm [11k\]: f10 
Tower [3d\]: b7 bad
Julian [3k\]: ;)
]
;W[fk]C[GaretJax [6k\]: even if this weren't neccesary, this is one of those manliness kos
DaoLin [3d?\]: the proverb is: 'if s.o. has 4 corners, someone is going to lose'
Over9k [5k\]: wow
Capsule [3d\]: W+20 - 22 points i think
GaretJax [6k\]: except in Feng's case it's womanliness
Over9k [5k\]: such a nice proverb
Zvi [6k\]: well, in most rule-set someone is going to lose
Hoole3 [9k\]: is feng a grl?
Tower [3d\]: isn't it if black has all four corners he should resign, and if white has all four corners black should resign ?
Over9k [5k\]: ko for honor
joelw [12k\]: i wonder if feng plays ping pong
GaretJax [6k\]: yeah, honor
themyr0n [3k\]: my count is w+ 19
GaretJax [6k\]: :)
Over9k [5k\]: if any1 has 4 corners black should resign
Zvi [6k\]: LOL
Tower [3d\]: ko isn't sente for black
GaretJax [6k\]: if Feng Yun is a good sensei though she taught him not to resign until he's sure
]
;B[fj]
;W[gb]C[Blockdude [3k\]: women arent really for ping pong, even if theyre asian
azaman [2k\]: feng yun is one of only 3 woman 9dan professionals folks... she's quite famous.
EagleHelm [11k\]: my count is still b+12
USGO2 [-\]: Feng 11 minutes
Tower [3d\]: semi sente for white to take
USGO2 [-\]: Zhongxia 23 minutes
EagleHelm [11k\]: go ricky!
Hoole3 [9k\]: who is ricky?
Blockdude [3k\]: if ricky won
Capsule [3d\]: lol B+12
usoc [1d\]: go martin
Blockdude [3k\]: ricky is zhongxia
Blockdude [3k\]: if he won though
GaretJax [6k\]: semi sente or no, it's sente for at most 5 pts from black I think
Blockdude [3k\]: that would be the biggest upset in go history
setake [10k\]: what is the rank difference between 6d and 9p???
joelw [12k\]: ricky is godzilla
Over9k [5k\]: f11 ?
]
;B[fa]C[Blockdude [3k\]: 5 stones, setake
Blockdude [3k\]: about
]
;W[ma]C[themyr0n [3k\]: b +12 how?
Capsule [3d\]: ricky winning against feng yun in a tournament game is like China winning against Brazil in the world cup.
nekobasu [16k\]: Does "Ing" rule count differently than the usual way?
USGO2 [-\]: 10 boards are finished
]
;B[hb]
;W[oa]
;B[pa]C[Zvi [6k\]: ing is like chinese counting
]
;W[gb]C[Over9k [5k\]: lol double
]
;B[sp]
;W[sn]C[vagabundo [2k\]: I count white +13
]
;B[hb]C[Tower [3d\]: white wins easily
nekobasu [16k\]: Ok, thank you
]
;W[cf]
;B[be]
;W[gb]C[Capsule [3d\]: i'll stick with W+20
wuwei [5k\]: talk about 9p women, Rui Naiwei qualified for the Samsung tournament
]
;B[rm]
;W[sm]
;B[hb]C[azaman [2k\]: cool
Tower [3d\]: i got even counting before i even got whites D12 area and komi
Over9k [5k\]: W+9001
]
;W[es]C[Zvi [6k\]: i hate counting :/
AznKid93 [1d\]: its over nine thousand!
]
;B[cs]
;W[gb]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: lol
Zvi [6k\]: lol azn
weak888 [1k\]: white win at least 10 points
Tower [3d\]: guh i hate these stupid kos
]
;B[sl]
;W[sk]
;B[hb]C[Tower [3d\]: let it enddddddddddddd
joelw [12k\]: b is losing points on this ko
]
;W[ia]C[Tower [3d\]: thank you
Zvi [6k\]: cut ? :X
Tower [3d\]: lol cut the two living groups in gote!
Zvi [6k\]: i mean, for fun sake
]
;B[hf]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: i was hoping for cut
Blockdude [3k\]: cut does nothing
RunningFox [2d\]: i hate counting too...that is why i am 2 after playing go 100 yeras
Zvi [6k\]: cut - 1 point :D
Gaxx [3k\]: SE says C12 is dead <3
]
;W[lh]C[Zvi [6k\]: se isn't too smart
Hoole3 [9k\]: who si SE?
Elandal [2k\]: SE is very good at killing.
]
;B[ie]C[Zvi [6k\]: score estimator. our god
Tower [3d\]: yeah J15 way bigger
Capsule [3d\]: of course it's dead, you don't see it Gaxx?
Zvi [6k\]: lol
Gaxx [3k\]: :P
Rakeliem [1k\]: se says b+30
Blockdude [3k\]: SE really knows its life and death
]
;W[af]
;B[ae]
;W[ag]C[teamochi [9k\]: *laughs*
]
;B[mk]
;W[nl]C[Zvi [6k\]: se can kill a group with two eyes
Hoole3 [9k\]: where can I find an SE?
Tower [3d\]: nice finish this up
Tower [3d\]: E2
GaretJax [6k\]: wow 
joelw [12k\]: SE could kill a fly
GaretJax [6k\]: that's impressive even for an SE kill
Zvi [6k\]: k6
Rakeliem [1k\]: se can kill a group with a dead group in it
Hoole3 [9k\]: where can I find an SE?
]
;B[er]
;W[bc]C[Rakeliem [1k\]: cgoban
Over9k [5k\]: walmart
dima [2d\]: options->Score est
Gaxx [3k\]: with the "options" button
jon74ever [11k\]: score estimate
Tower [3d\]: hahaha
HamatoYosh [-\]: they are mystical creatures
Zvi [6k\]: options -> score estimator
Tower [3d\]: C18
RunningFox [2d\]: my...
HamatoYosh [-\]: very hard to find
usoc [1d\]: go to google to find se
Tower [3d\]: b18 maybe
Blockdude [3k\]: theres one in my garage
Hoole3 [9k\]: thanks Zvi
Tower [3d\]: actually
EagleHelm [11k\]: g15 good
HamatoYosh [-\]: you can start in the enchanted forest
DaoLin [3d?\]: whow .... semedori?
Elandal [2k\]: It's not available in the webclient.
]
;B[cb]C[Zvi [6k\]: they usually come with an old goban, found in attics. no waits , that's old masters spirits
]
;W[dd]C[wuwei [5k\]: and then you have to tame them... it's complicated
RunningFox [2d\]: b17...
]
;B[cc]C[Tower [3d\]: ahh
Hoole3 [9k\]: argh
joelw [12k\]: owned
Hoole3 [9k\]: so how can I estimate score
]
;W[ak]C[Blockdude [3k\]: no way
Blockdude [3k\]: wuwei is my chinese name!
]
;B[al]C[wuwei [5k\]: really!
]
;W[aj]C[Blockdude [3k\]: yeah :D
Rakeliem [1k\]: yay
threeoone [4k\]: b lost 10+ points in yose lol
Johnny5 [7k\]: xD
Zvi [6k\]: lame name, sorry
Blockdude [3k\]: Wu Weis FTW!!!!
Rakeliem [1k\]: feng yun rox
Hoole3 [9k\]: lol
]
;B[ck]
;W[cj]C[DaoLin [3d?\]: 'WuWei' is good principle
Hoole3 [9k\]: Zhao gave him a run for his money
Over9k [5k\]: psh my chinese name means aids in spanish
Over9k [5k\]: so i win
Capsule [3d\]: her*
Zvi [6k\]: must b7?
cloudy [4d\]: this is elimination by one game?
vagabundo [2k\]: yes
]
;B[ed]C[Hoole3 [9k\]: oops sorry her*
Zvi [6k\]: :O
]
;W[si]C[Zvi [6k\]: a7?
Zvi [6k\]: w: a7 doesn't work ?
Capsule [3d\]: a7 doesnt work until one more liberty is filled
Confuse24 [3k\]: its 1 elimination
EagleHelm [11k\]: you don't need to call nobody else!
]
;B[sg]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: ricky!
Zvi [6k\]: oh, right
Tower [3d\]: ive got white at 63+komi
Confuse24 [3k\]: its single elimination
]
;W[lg]C[Over9k [5k\]: ahh double negative
Capsule [3d\]: lol what?
]
;B[ee]C[azaman [2k\]: pros have this frustrating habit of playing the biggest move...
]
;W[jk]C[Gaxx [3k\]: haha
Rakeliem [1k\]: double negatives Are confusing
]
;B[in]C[EagleHelm [11k\]: g15 
]
;W[jo]C[Tower [3d\]: and i've got black at like 48
themyr0n [3k\]: c8
]
;B[gb]C[joelw [12k\]: a6
]
;W[na]C[Zvi [6k\]: g15?
Tower [3d\]: so 70-48 roughly
]
;B[bm]
;W[fs]
;B[ds]C[Rakeliem [1k\]: t8
Hoole3 [9k\]: wait if b plays j17
]
;W[eg]C[Rakeliem [1k\]: c8
Hoole3 [9k\]: he can kill white
]
;B[ge]
;W[ic]C[Tower [3d\]: nah
]
;B[an]C[Tower [3d\]: nothing was there
Zvi [6k\]: he can't
]
;W[dn]C[Over9k [5k\]: lol the cut
]
;B[ef]
;W[io]
;B[fi]
;W[hm]
;B[cl]C[Johnny5 [7k\]: filling dame now it seems
Tower [3d\]: yeah
Tower [3d\]: tis over
Gaxx [3k\]: *gasp* but... but... SE said that group was dead!
hellsking [21k\]: who isi winning?
Zvi [6k\]: dame = points
Tower [3d\]: white wins
Confuse24 [3k\]: w wins by at least 20
Tower [3d\]: my rough count was 70-48 i think
Zvi [6k\]: se is right. they aren't strong enough to see it's dead
USGO2 [-\]: They have stopped the clock
cloudy [4d\]: chinese rules, i guess
amakusa [9k\]: black should play the atomic tesuji and run away
Hagalaz [4k\]: still, not bad.. at 14 years old 2 stones wewaker than a 9p
USGO2 [-\]: TD is assisting in counting.
Abeto [2k\]: 70-49
Johnny5 [7k\]: new zealand rules I think
USGO2 [-\]: ING rules
Johnny5 [7k\]: oh
Zvi [6k\]: they did that in hirushima. and look what happened amakusa
Blockdude [3k\]: lol amakusa\\
Johnny5 [7k\]: xD
Confuse24 [3k\]: usgo is it single elimination
Over9k [5k\]: TD=SE + rare candy?
Blockdude [3k\]: id love to see that in a pro game
USGO2 [-\]: There is no elimination in this tournament
EagleHelm [11k\]: lol
USGO2 [-\]: all players play all 5 rounds.
Confuse24 [3k\]: kk
cloudy [4d\]: i c
EagleHelm [11k\]: rare candy for the win!
Rakeliem [1k\]: td=tada?
Gaxx [3k\]: rare candy? 
krakengo [1k\]: good attacks from w
Zvi [6k\]: w+23 ?
USGO2 [-\]: White wins
Tower [3d\]: final count ?
Rakeliem [1k\]: nice
Over9k [5k\]: rare candy+missingno= instatn win
Tower [3d\]: i want to see if i was close
USGO2 [-\]: still counting
Rakeliem [1k\]: +21
Zvi [6k\]: i think it's +23
Capsule [3d\]: missingno destroyed my blue cartridge
Rakeliem [1k\]: se works for ths
amakusa [9k\]: This will be a nice game to go back and study
Hoole3 [9k\]: how can I save this game?
Tower [3d\]: 70-48 was my count, though not quite sure what komi in ing is
Gaxx [3k\]: Are they playing in person or something? Why count?
Tower [3d\]: so i just added 7
azaman [2k\]: Kudos to ricky though... he gets to play tournament games against pros... something I may never get to do.
dima [2d\]: if it's ing rules, komi is 8 :)
USGO2 [-\]: 23 points for white
Blockdude [3k\]: they are playing in person
EagleHelm [11k\]: rare candy + missingno= kangashan
Over9k [5k\]: options, save to disk
Zvi [6k\]: ha
Zvi [6k\]: i was right
hardtowin [1k\]: w win
NoKnott [-\]: Hoole3, KGS will save it, but if you have the CGoban client, options/ save to disk
Over9k [5k\]: missingno can learn bubble...twice
Zvi [6k\]: thanks usg
Hoole3 [9k\]: thanks
Zvi [6k\]: usgo
Zvi [6k\]: thank you all for kibitz
weak888 [1k\]: w win by 22 points?
Zvi [6k\]: see ya
Zvi [6k\]: by 23
USGO2 [-\]: Thank you all for attending!
nekobasu [16k\]: Thank you USGO2
krakengo [1k\]: B17 must have been humilating for b
krakengo [1k\]: oh
Rakeliem [1k\]: thank you usgo 2
Hoole3 [9k\]: Thank YOU
amakusa [9k\]: thank you 
krakengo [1k\]: thanks so much for all the relaying
Gaxx [3k\]: komi was 8, not 7, so you counted correctly
USGO2 [-\]: Same time tomorrow night.
USGO2 [-\]: You are welcome.
NoKnott [-\]: thanks USGo2
Hagios [4k\]: Thank you, USGO2
teamochi [9k\]: thanka
Over9k [5k\]: when does feng yun play mingjiu?
Over9k [5k\]: thanks usgo2
EagleHelm [11k\]: Thank you for volunteering
lifeisgood [-\]: thanks for recording
krakengo [1k\]: night yes... 6:50 am here ^^;;
EagleHelm [11k\]: tell them to bring the congress to phoenix next year
gavrieltal [17k\]: this is north american, right?
gavrieltal [17k\]: bring it to Canada!
EagleHelm [11k\]: yep
EagleHelm [11k\]: no
gavrieltal [17k\]: preferably Toronto
EagleHelm [11k\]: no canada
EagleHelm [11k\]: too cold
EagleHelm [11k\]: too french
gavrieltal [17k\]: dude
gavrieltal [17k\]: it's summer there
Stormer [3k\]: toronto is hardly french
EagleHelm [11k\]: i know
gavrieltal [17k\]: it's like 70 F
EagleHelm [11k\]: lol
gavrieltal [17k\]: it's perfect
EagleHelm [11k\]: too cold
EagleHelm [11k\]: 102 is perfect
krakengo [1k\]: what is 70 f
krakengo [1k\]: sounds hot
gavrieltal [17k\]: nope
gavrieltal [17k\]: it's...
EagleHelm [11k\]: 70 degrees farenheit about 25 c
gavrieltal [17k\]: well, 30 C is 88 F
Hoole3 [9k\]: so what are the people doing now?
gavrieltal [17k\]: so it's more like 22 C
krakengo [1k\]: mmh drinking i guess
EagleHelm [11k\]: not quiet
USGO2 [-\]: Good night, all, and thanks again for joining.
Hoole3 [9k\]: GOOD NIGHT
gavrieltal [17k\]: good night mr. cool relayer
EagleHelm [11k\]: USGO tell them to bring the congress to phoenix
gavrieltal [17k\]: tell them to put in STRONG A/C's
EagleHelm [11k\]: Phoenix air is pure central A/c
gavrieltal [17k\]: sniff I miss USGO already
EagleHelm [11k\]: me too
gavrieltal [17k\]: geez, have I spent 3 hours watching this?
vavoysh [7k\]: what was the result?
gavrieltal [17k\]: 1am in New York City, where I really live
gavrieltal [17k\]: white won by 22 komi
gavrieltal [17k\]: g'night y'all
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